Saturday, April 3, 2021

State of the #SHEA part 32: I'm The Dad ("Spilled Milk")

 


After being involved in theater most of my young life, I took it as an elective my first semester at college (my major was over in the Journalism/Mass Communication building). I thought there’d be plenty of non-theater majors like me in there, but it turned out to be me, a business major who dropped out quickly, and an East Indian student who said he was there because he was “searching for his nirvana.” The rest were young, enthusiastic THEATER MAJORS (put in all caps for a reason). One of them you might even have heard of-- Jeremy Piven, best known for his work on the TV series Entourage-- but he fled the Midwest university life after a couple years to study in New York. Seems to have worked for him.


Why is she telling me all this…??  OK, I’ll get to that now.


I stuck with the class, and kinda sort of earned some respect from my hard-core classmates because I could hold my own with them in a scene… but my weak spot was improvisation. I’d become too inhibited over time; it was no longer fun. And one improv exercise I remember well was when two students took the floor and were given a single line of dialogue, with the goal of creating an entire small scene by finding different ways to communicate the same line of dialogue. “I could hurt you,” was the first line that was given. And in the space of about 90 seconds, the pair went from keeping it light (“I could hurt you?” asked sarcastically) to a gut-wrenching realization (“I… could hurt you!!” followed by a prolonged embrace) that left me thinking two things 1) Wow that got dark in a hurry, and 2) Please please don’t call on me for this exercise


In case it’s still unclear, this memory popped to mind after the repetition of We are having a baby a line that made its debut at the end of "Teeny Blue Eyes," then was repeated four times in "Spilled Milk." How many more times we’ll hear those exact words this season remains to be seen, but they’ve already made quite the journey of expression for one Dr. Murphy.


It wasn’t an easy episode to watch, was it? It might have even taken you back to last season’s “Fixation” episode (where Shaun’s efforts to show Lea he was capable of enough ASD-related change to sustain a relationship ended in a painful exchange on the St. B bridge), and-- fun fact-- Jessica Grasl had a hand in writing both “Fixation” AND “Spilled Milk.” Different writers are tapped for different gifts, I presume.


Don’t worry, the touching final scene of “Spilled Milk” is anything but forgotten here. But it might ultimately prove to be a momentary oasis of joy on a road to parenthood paved with gaping potholes, both ASD/NT related and otherwise. That’s what we #Shea fans signed up for, after all. We trust these two will be written to transcend their difficulties, coming back with a stronger bond each time… that doesn’t always make watching the tough times any easier, though.



It seemed like no matter how many days/weeks had passed since that scene at the end of "Teeny," Shaun was saying the same thing the same way: WE ARE HAVING A BABY. It was filled with all the wonder and amazement you might expect of a new parent-to-be, but in those early morning moments, Lea was well past that. First-trimester nausea has a way of overriding a LOT. 


Shaun got his first dose of disconnection in this scene, too, when Lea declined sex, citing his minty breath as the reason why (nausea wins again). Funny that several of us on Twitter got to seeking a mint-free alternative toothpaste for Shaun, thinking this might be the kind of episode where an easy switch like that could help resolve their issues. Yeah, not so much…


She still had her lovely imaginative wits about her, though, and “picturing Shaun’s face on a little baby blueberry” was as easy for Lea to see as it was impossible for Shaun-- that becomes clearer in their next, brief scene together in Lea’s office. “The fetus” vs. “our baby;” “the doctor” vs. “the dad.” 


Mya and Leo-- the dancers featured in “Spilled Milk”-- made quite the impression on Shaun. When he thought they were a romantic couple early in the episode, and noted Leo positioning a pillow behind Mya in her hospital bed, Shaun departed abruptly… showing up next in Lea’s office, support pillow in hand. And even after Wolke made him aware of Leo’s homosexuality, the sight of Mya and Leo dancing together still inspired him enough to try and take Lea for a spin on their own makeshift dance floor. Maybe the fear of more “sorry Shaun, I’m not in the mood” prompted to find ways to connect that even a non-sexual relationship could manage? 


Unfortunately, it was a rough time to start dance lessons with Lea (Please get back to this someday! My little #Shea heart cried out in this scene). She's going through changes right now both voluntarily-- she had a choice; she chose to keep the pregnancy going-- and involuntarily (her body’s going to change whether she’s ready for it or not). Shaun’s changes, like any prospective father, are entirely voluntary. And, for most of “Spilled Milk,” entirely resisted by Shaun. 


I didn’t expect as much #Shea as the 9-10 minutes we ultimately got in this episode-- about twice as long as usual-- but when I realized around two-thirds of that time was devoted to Shaun and Lea’s “disconnection” scenes, it made more sense. 




Part of what hurt in those two scenes was seeing such lovely efforts at connectivity go up in smoke. The dancing that was Shaun’s idea? Cut short due to Lea’s ongoing nausea. The “tummy talk” instigated by Lea? Nicely executed (once they got past Shaun’s bewildered “Talk about… what?”, but Shaun’s inability to humor Lea and pretend their in-utero child could hear quickly deflated the moment.  


And while the feelings and body language in both scenes comprised the rest of the pain we witnessed, it’s easy to overlook the fact that they both handled themselves relatively well. Shaun’s feelings were far from what Lea needed to hear, but he presented them calmly and clearly. (You could see Lea’s this-might-take-awhile sigh just after Shaun started to speak, but she still summoned enough patience to give Shaun the floor, without interruption, as long as he needed it.)


Predictably, Lea upset that portion of TGD viewers who bristle anytime she has the audacity to be anything other than a saint of a girlfriend. Why did she have to be mean? She wouldn’t dance! She called Shaun “selfish” when she’s the one who wrote the book on selfish behavior! She probably went to bed without saying “good night”! She might’ve even woken up without saying “good morning”! Why wouldn’t she, of all people, cut Shaun some slack? 


Because the relationship doesn’t work that way. It CAN’T work that way. It’s not about carrying on as a fully neurotypical couple until the partner with ASD hits a wall, then instantly giving said partner the right of way. It’s about constantly riding the nuances; knowing the difference between the controllable, the uncontrollable, and the can-be-controllable-but-it-takes-more-time-and-effort. 




Back in the office scene, Lea thought they were dealing with a relatively mild dilemma of Shaun wanting to do Doctor Things and use Doctor Terms above all else (the pillow for comfort, the non-gummy prenatal vitamins for “the fetus”). But when she told him in that scene “Be the dad, not the doctor,” I’m not sure she caught the little wave of terror that passed through his face. First he wasn’t able to connect with her physically, now he was supposed to start doing this “dad” thing months ahead of what he had mentally scheduled? 


No wonder he turned to Wolke and Glassman next. (Sure it was Wolke this time because they were working on Mya’s case together, but I’m really liking the dynamic between these two… Wolke feels Shaun’s little buddy, both literally and figuratively.) In classic Shaun style, he worked out his professional dilemma and his personal dilemma side-by-side…


with one huge caveat: he didn’t work out the personal one. He acknowledged it-- saying “I don’t like adjusting” to Wolke and Glassman’s advice that he needs to adjust-- but in getting up and walking away right afterward, his commitment to even trying to adjust wasn’t there yet.


Lea, meanwhile, has no one to turn to. We’ve brought this up again and again, but in an episode where she’s getting dumped on especially hard, it feels important to be reminded of this fact. Maybe TGD does this with the intent of illustrating how isolated the NT side of an ASD/NT relationship can be-- if so, I tend to think that’s a convenient excuse for not having to make additional room in the scripts. But with rare exceptions (like the “Teeny” scene with Claire), Lea continues to be left to her own devices when it comes to difficult navigation with Shaun.



And the problem here is that she KNOWS the “adjusting” thing falls into the controllable-with-more-time-and-effort category with Shaun, but sitting there, queasy as hell on the couch, summoning all her patience and energy to let Shaun explain himself… she doesn’t see any effort. All she hears is him complaining that SHE isn’t making enough effort to help HIM! (Never mind that’s not quite what he was saying; perception is everything.) But rather than let her anger get anywhere close to out of control, she capped it and left the room. Yes, that left Shaun feeling more disconnected than ever, but the alternative would have been much worse. 


Instead, we picked it up the next morning. By that point Lea had time to cool off… maybe she was having a better time with the nausea (or it hadn’t kicked in yet)... and she’s even come up with a way to help Shaun connect. But not until she gave a voice to some crucial realizations.


LEA: I… feel scared too.

SHAUN: What are you scared of?


LEA: Everything. And I don’t want to go through this alone. I don’t want to go through nine months knowing you view this baby as a medical condition you don’t feel anything for. I’ll resent you. And that scares me more than anything. 

Whoa, RESENT. That was the toughest word for me to hear in this entire episode. “Resent” means feeling bitterness; it turns occasional anger and frustration into something unrelenting, much more difficult to shake. It was the first time this season that my post about real-world struggles for ASD/NT couples truly leaped to mind.


It was wise of Lea to begin this morning-after talk with “I feel scared too.” Even though Shaun never directly spoke to fear the night before, feeling “disconnected” and “alone” adds up to Shaun and Lea not functioning as a team… and that’s what the whole season has been about.


Shaun was finishing up getting dressed for work when this scene began, and I really appreciated the role his everyday plaid shirt played here:


        * As it started, Shaun faced the closet, not turning around until Lea started sharing her own fears. It seemed a protective measure on Shaun’s part; for all we know, these were the first words Lea said to him since their argument.


        * When Lea spoke of connectivity while climbing up on the bed, Shaun immediately began to unbutton that shirt, ready and willing to connect with Lea in the most effortless way possible. 

(Sorry, #Shea fandom, but the allusions to sex were as frequent in this episode as they were unproductive.) 


        * I found it interesting, though, that Shaun left the tails of his shirt untucked as he laid across the bed as casually as we’ve ever seen him do, attempting to “talk” to the #SheaBerry. Unfortunately, humoring Lea when his knowledge overrides it-- yeah, that’s not gonna happen, especially when asked about his feelings outright. 


LEA: (hopeful) Does that make you feel better? To talk to him?

SHAUN: No. The fetus can’t hear any sounds until 18 weeks, and we don’t know if it’s a “him” yet because it doesn’t have fully formed genitals. I will see you at your appointment later. (He gets off bed. Lea looks crushed.)

LEA: I don’t think you should come.

(Shaun was tucking in shirt as he was leaving room, he pauses, looks back at her)

LEA: There’s a chance it’s too early to hear a heartbeat, which will make me sad and scared… and if I can hear it, I will feel happy. And either way, you will probably feel… nothing. And that will make me feel more alone than I already do, so you should just… not come.

SHAUN: (4-second pause) Okay.


Again, I think it’s worth noting that Lea kept her cool here. She could have said these words with voice raised, pacing back and forth, anger even easier for Shaun to detect than the night before-- but she didn’t. Instead, she delivered her request for him NOT to come to the appointment with sad resignation. He’s not getting this, her subtext stated. We’ll try again in the future, but it’s not going to be today.


Subtext isn’t something Shaun picks up often, so he took her “don’t come” at face value… I think. (I thought he exited the bedroom slower than usual, as if trying hard to process Lea’s words and coming up undecided.) The fact that Glassman found Shaun “hiding at the hospital” when he should have been leaving to catch Lea’s appointment (apparently at a different hospital or medical building? Maybe one closer to the loft?) indicates again that Shaun DID realize he should be behaving in a certain way-- in this case, showing up for the appointment regardless of what Lea said-- but fearing how it would go, he tried the classic “I’m needed more here” fallback. 


Do you think he resorted to taking up cases in Glassman’s clinic so that he’d be found out (and sent in the right direction) easier? If he’d simply lingered in the doctor’s lounge doing research, only a chance run-in with Wolke might have nudged him towards Lea’s appointment. Instead, we got another little dose of don’t-do-as-I-did wisdom, courtesy of surrogate Dad. Which surely carried more weight than what anyone else might’ve said, anyway. 


The surprise and relief on Lea’s face when Shaun joined the appointment surely told him he’d make the right decision… and he’d be wise to file that memory for future incidents. Because there are quite likely going to be variations on the tensions we saw this week. If Lea delivers their child, premature or otherwise, the challenges of this relationship will be magnified. If something happens to “Berry” before all that… the challenges of this relationship will be magnified. I’m sure that’s a huge part of why TGD decided to go with this storyline. Less supportive viewers are likely to keep calling Shaun and Lea’s relationship “awkward” as a result, unwilling and/or unable to appreciate the process that leads to payoffs such as we got in “Spilled Milk.”


For not only did we get a whole new interpretation of that line We’re having a baby… both from a rejuvenated Lea AND a newly awakened Shaun… but we got Shaun trying out an even newer sentence on for size:


“I’m the dad.” 


No matter how many different ways we interpret it, those three words ring the same at their core: Informal. Intensely personal. And as intertwined with “the mom” as the hands he rushed to hold once it all hit home for him.





(What did YOU take away from "Spilled Milk"? Hit up the comments to join the conversation!)

13 comments:

Tony said...

Thanks again, Kelli, for your own personal musings. And better yet, finding a way to connect those to our favorite Doctor and Engineer!

I've seen some of those nay-sayer comments as well. And really, I've just gotten to the point of letting them pass by. I seriously doubt that any of the harsher stuff was by folks jumping off the Shea bandwagon just because of this incident (if we can even call it that). In my mind, those were simply haters who managed to latch onto even the tiniest opportunity. And anyone who says the onus was on exactly one person in this episode is failing to see the big picture.

There were some milder criticisms of both Shaun and Lea, even from their strongest supporters. And I suppose we could debate amongst ourselves "who was more right?" I think they both had some things to take away from the issue of Shaun's connectedness, and I believe that they both learned and grew beautifully! I think Shaun realized that some adaptation is necessary, while Lea realized that doing so is truly a two-person effort.

I noticed the writer in common with "Fixation." But I didn't really get any serious vibes that we saw on the bridge. The conversation was much more subdued, without any real words of regret. Neither Shaun nor Lea said anything "wrong" in this exchange, in my view. And I never really felt that there was any real jeopardy to their progress as parents-to-be, as a couple, or as individuals.

One thing I've REALLY come to appreciate: we seem to be beyond the point to where the question is IF Shaun and Lea can get through their next obstacle. I truly believe the question has become HOW WILL they get through? And I'm all for that!!

Unknown said...

Hey Kelli!!!! Like I told you before thank you for this beautiful post! Love to hear your stories and to see them relatable to what we are watching on the show.

The repetition of the phrase "we are having a baby" to me was also noticeable because it meant something different every single time.

The first time we heard it was like oh we have made the choice, this is really happening.

Second time (For Shaun) it was in a way maybe to get some affectionate moment with Lea, maybe both felt very excited with the idea so it could have been an overly used phrase for them to get into the mood for sex.

And then the last time was finally realizing that a life is growing inside of her, a creation of them both. Something real and somehow tangible that made it through with that speedy heartbeat.

To be honest, the whole scenario was very delicate, imo and it achieved its goal if you truly could differ with the ways the phrase was said and the moments the phrase was said.

I think that the main disconnection issue Shaun had was with the lack of physical contact. For him this aspect of the relationship is very pivotal and we have seen it before when he expressed his need to touch Lea when they were apart for example. So, the lack of, and of course her rejection caused him to feel disconnected. I assume that Lea was always very affectionate and open to his sexual advances in the past (assume this because of course we have been deprived of any scene seeing them enjoying these moments *sighs*) so to feel this kind of rejection on her part now caused him to inmediately feel something was wrong.

This and his posterior conversation with Andrews where he stated that sex is more than sex or something like that, makes me wonder if we are finally seeing Shaun understanding the difference between plain sex and sex with love or That in love psychical contact is beyond just sex. I really, really wish we can see this with him.

I'm still upset the dancing scene was not what we expected but I guess it is all part of the same.

Nevertheless, there is still a lot more to see and lot more to explore between them two.

Just to finish, I have to admit that Lea's lashing out on Shaun sounded almost unfair when I first saw it but then I had the chance to re watch the episode and I saw her so vulnerable, holding a pregnancy book in her hands and trying to cope with what she is living that really felt like SHE WAS THE ONE WHO WAS SO ALONE IN THIS. And sorry for the capital letters but that's the truth. Shaun has all the support from his colleagues and Glassy but Lea? Her mother is far away, and maybe won't be of much help anyway... To be pregnant for the first time is so scary and you are worried about everything, she needs support and to see her partner complaining when she is taking most of the burden, let's be honest that's what women have to go through, yes it felt kinda selfish of him.

I'm glad they learned lesson in this particular moment because afterwards when the baby is already there their couple moments will be more limited. So, I hope the Writers can bless us with more connection moments of them as a couple too as well as they are doing so with their parents to be moments.


Vale

Allan Verissimo said...

Great post!

With Shaun and Lea living together, expecting a child, I suppose it shouldn't be long before they start discussing a wedding, right? It seems like the next natural step in Shaun's mind. There is also the question of Shaun's mother: will he want to tell her about his grandson/granddaughter? Or he cut ties with her for good, after the events of "Friends and Family"?

About another subject, the Spoiler TV website is once again making its monthly poll of the best performances of the month. For those interested to vote for Freddie, Paige and the rest of the cast of The Good Doctor, here's the link: https://www.spoilertv.com/2021/04/performers-of-month-nominations-for.html

Daniela said...

Thanks a lot, Kelli! I’ll never thank you enough, because without your blog these long breaks would be unbearable. Instead, we have the great opportunity to keep talking and sharing ideas, making the waiting much better.

When I think about my pregnancies (it was quite some time ago), I remember with crystal clarity the sensation of waking up nauseous every morning. Both times (a little bit less the second time), for the first 3-4 months, my morning routine included throwing up, brushing my teeth with a disgusting mint toothpaste, enduring the smell of coffee (I used to love before), and heading out to work a full-time job.
Mood swings affected me deeply, and I found myself bickering with colleagues very often, when I used to be a very calm person before.
My husband (a neurotypical man) was barely aware of my discomfort, and his best coping strategy was leaving me alone, when I didn’t feel like connecting. Which I appreciated immensely.
No man can really understand what it feels like for a woman being pregnant and (as Glassy put it) going through all those changes. If we add autism to the mix, I’m sure that the situation can become even more confusing.
My point is that Lea’s attitude and upset reaction to Shaun were totally understandable. What I fail to understand, instead, is the blame people placed on her. Either they don’t know what they’re talking about or they simply hate for the sake of it.
Probably, some are still grieving Melendez’s death, which anniversary, unfortunately for us, is the same date as Shea’s. Now, I don’t wish to diminish their sadness, and I respect that (I’d be sad as well if one of my favorite characters were killed off), but many lack the objectivity to understand that Melendez wasn’t such an important presence in Shaun’s life. He changed his mind about him, he came to appreciate him as a doctor, and he became his friend, all true. But I fail to understand why so many were expecting to see Shaun devasted by his death.
Sorry for this diversion, I probably needed to let off some steam.

Daniela said...

Now, back to Lea, what’s really missing in her life is probably a female friend to talk to. Claire was there for her in Teeny Blue Eyes, and it was great. Maybe we’ll see them together again in the future.
Like many of you, I had very high hopes for Debbie and Lea to become friends. It would’ve been only natural. Being Debbie Glassman’s wife, they are basically family. Unfortunately, I heard that Sheila Kelley had other commitments with Disney+ and wasn’t available to film more episodes for The Good Doctor.
I hope she will at least be present when the baby is born. Otherwise, it would really look like her and Glassy lived two very separate lives.
That said, it’s also true that Glassman is supporting Lea indirectly, helping Shaun understanding and making the right decisions. And I’m sure that he will be there for her in future episodes too (maybe during her hospitalization?). Part of the first half of the season was devoted to cement their bond, obviously for a reason.
The scene between Shaun and Glassy at the clinic was particularly touching, by the way (no Kleenex available for me at the moment, unfortunately).
It was heartbreaking to see and hear how much regret and pain Glassman still carries for not being a good enough father to his daughter. And at the same time, it was so heartwarming to witness what a good dad he is to Shaun. I think that he’d deserve to be told that, and that this ‘grandchild’ will help him recover and heal.

After everything that happened throughout the episode, I agree with you Kelli, that the “I am the dad” and the “We’re having a baby” of the last scene, carried a meaning of their own, completely different from the previous times the same words had been said. They came with a renewed understanding from Shaun and with a renewed hope from Lea. Now, if that hope will be confirmed in the following episode, is yet to be seen.
From what we saw in the promo, Shaun and Lea’s difficulties are far from over. Shaun is again struggling to keep his doctor side at bay, and at some point, we hear Glassy saying “Just give her what she needs”.
So, here we go again…

Just to bring up something people are discussing pretty much everywhere, any ideas about the gender of the baby? I was sure it would be a boy at first. But when Glassman’s daughter was brought up last episode, I changed my mind and started to think it could be a girl 😉

MelanieMeirr said...

Thanks Kelli for another great post.
I am not good at writing. But I can't help but thank you for the time you always make available to write for us and for having this space, which I particularly love. And I look forward to each new post.
When the new episode aired and I saw the amount of comments on Twiiter judging Lea,I was upset.

Like everyone here,to me the way Lea responded to Shaun is super normal.
And many such challenges still to come on the whole journey #Shea

Daniela, About the sex of the baby, I had the same feeling. They mentioned Maddie, maybe it's a foreshadowing. I would love it to be a girl.



Syl said...

It was once again great reading your post!
I loved the parallel between your experience when studying theater and TGD. Having to repeat several times the same line with a different intonation must be really difficult. The actor has to be able to convey a different emotion and meaning each time. It was important that it was done well in TGD because they weren't casual words about a trivial situation, Lea and Shaun having a baby is huge and has rightfully become the core element of the show. And of course because Freddie and Paige are talented and are so in sync when acting off each other, they succeeded in conveying their characters' feelings every time they said this line.

It was painful to see Shaun and Lea being disconnected, but it was also realistic. Since it is apparently difficult for fathers-to-be to connect to the baby during the pregnancy, it stands to reason that it would be a challenge for Shaun. Although it seemed harsh of Lea to get angry at him while he was trying to be honest and communicate his feelings, she is very scared, basically dealing with everything alone, and furthermore feeling nauseous right at this moment, so I understood her. She usually is very understanding with Shaun and is very good at finding ways to help him better comprehend things, but it's a lot harder for her to provide the emotional support for Shaun as she's the one who now needs it the most.
The fact that she has no one to talk to about her fears with being pregnant for the first time, with becoming a mother, about the physical and emotional changes and side-effects, etc. is really sad...Which makes it so unnerving that people criticize her and judge her very harshly so easily the minute she raises her voice or says something not nice to Shaun. It's indeed like Lea has to be a saint to be worthy of Shaun. To me it's a bit ableist, because it's like she has to always be kind and supportive since "it's so difficult for him because he's autistic, and he makes so much effort!!" I love Shaun, and it's fantastic to see him grow, as a doctor and as a boyfriend and now father-to-be, but like any human, he's not perfect and he shouldn't be seen as a victim or be coddled. I thought Shaun was being a bit selfish, with Glassmand and Asher, when he said "I don't like adjusting." It was a honest statement, but it also felt like at this moment it bothered him to make the necessary changes for Lea's and the relationship's sake, while he was the one saying in "The uncertainty principle" that what matters is that they both change in the same direction.
Sorry for this long rant, I just needed to vent! I'm quite sensitive and some comments/posts on Twitter, Reddit, etc. still upset me...I know the negative comments don't matter much as they won't prevent TPTB from continuing on developing Shaun and Lea's story ; often hate is louder than love, and I imagine that TPTB wouldn't have decided to keep Lea for so long and give her so much focus now if they hadn't had a majorly positive feedback about the character and her relationship with Shaun over the years (of course it probably was easier to decide to keep the character because of how well Paige got along with everyone and notably Freddie^^). It's just a shame posts hating on Lea and Lea/Shaun get so much visibility.

Regarding the disconnection, I admit I was slightly surprised that Shaun still sees sex as the main way to connect, because I thought that before this episode:
- he had already realized the difference between sex and physical intimacy given how often and how easily they hold hands and hug;
- because of the social distancing he had realized he longed just being close to her, talking to her, etc.
- they already had an emotional connection given how in tune they were with each other.

Syl said...

Something that bothers me: Lea keeps saying she's scared, but I wish we would see her expand on that and particularly say clearly to Shaun the things that make her scared the most. Shaun didn't seem to remember that Lea said she was scared in "Teeny..." as she had to repeat in this episode "I'm scared too", and Shaun's "what are you scared of?" makes it seem like they barely talked about their feelings regarding the pregnancy, which is odd given that they both are normally honest with each other.

About Shaun behaving like the doctor and not the dad: in my previous post I had mentioned that I had first thought about Shaun acting with Lea similarly to how he did with Glassman, but in the end believed he wouldn't behave a doctor too much because he had learnt how to support a close one. It turns out I was wrong, and thanks to Andreas I've learnt that people with ASD may have trouble to apply something they have learnt in a specific situation to another similar situation (I'm probably not saying it well, so anybody can correct me...). The problem is that most viewers won't get any explanation about that and so will just say that they are tired of Shaun repeating the same behaviour like he hasn't grown.

I loved how Glassman advised him not to do like him and not miss any important moment with Lea and the baby. I thought it was weird too that Shaun was at the clinic while he could have easily kept busy at the hospital, in the ER or indeed with research ; so maybe he subconsciously was in search for Glassman's advice.

As with "Teeny blue eyes", the end scene was worth all the tense moments we previously saw in the episode. I just love how Shaun and Lea looked at each other,  shared a happy moment, and seeing them both being relieved and excited: Lea because she heard the heartbeat and because Shaun finally spoke of the fetus as the baby after hearing the heartbeat and seeing Berry on the screen, and Shaun because he could now make the connection with the baby.
I also love how the reconnection with Lea at this moment was depicted not just by the way they looked at each other and the words "we're having a baby", but by Shaun physically reaching out to Lea. If the writers continue to have such heartwarming and rewarding end scenes with Shaun and Lea, I'm more ready to see Shea struggle in future episodes!
On the other hand, I would very much like to see more happy moments between them, because even though most of their struggles would be realistic, it could become a bit depressing and in these difficult times we all need to see our beloved characters share more simple and happy moments.


About the gender of the baby, I thought for sure that it would be a boy just so that he can be named Steve, but I'm starting to have doubts after reading your thoughts Daniela and Melanie! And in fact I would love it if they had a girl and Lea proposed to give her the name of Glassman's daughter (because I think that either boy or girl Shaun wouldn't care much about the name and its emotional ties, so it's Lea who would propose the names of Steve or Maddie, but maybe I'm wrong). I love Glassy and Lea's relationship, and Lea doing that would definitely achieve to make him see her as a daughter.

hippydippyscot said...

Hi Kelli another interesting post but I have a very different view which others may not like.

Shaun is an adult an no longer the 14 year old teenager Glassie mentored and on top of that Shaun is a Dr/Surgeon so knows about the first trimester where some women have awful morning sickness and Lea is one of them where even the smell of mint was setting it off, your breasts ache, your hormones are going wild as your body is changing and the last thing on your mind is sex.

Lea said good morning to Shaun then stroked her stomach and spoke to baby berry 'Why are you making mummy so sick" Despite Lea saying this out loud with Shaun listening he went to kiss Lea as wanted sex and the smell of the mint made Lea couk (Scottish word for nearly throwing up instantly)but instead of saying anything more to Shaun Lea went on her side to stop herself being sick and Shaun went into a sulk.

PARAPHRASING - SHAUN, POOR LITTLE OL ME I DON'T FEEL ANY CONNECTION TO OUR BABY I FEEL ALONE, YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT ME AS WELL AS DOING EVERYTHING ELSE LEA AS I FEEL LEFT OUT. MEANWHILE, I CAN SEE SHAUN'S THINKING THE FETUS IS EVEN STOPPING US HAVING SEX - AND LEA HAS ASKED SHAUN TO STOP CALLING THEIR BABY A FETUS. I CHEERED WHEN LEA TOLD SHAUN EXACTLY HOW SELFISH HE WAS BEING AS WHAT LEA SAID TO SHAUN WAS LONG OVERDUE SHAUN WAS BEING SELFISH AND HURTFUL TOWARDS LEA WHO IS ALONE WITH NOBODY TO TALK WITH AND WANTS/NEEDS SHAUN'S SUPPORT.

LEA HAS BAD SICKNESS, HOLDING DOWN A STRESSFUL JOB - SORTING ALL OUT AT HOME - NOTE LEA TIDYING THE CLOSET PERHAPS FOR THE BABY CLOTHES - MAKING ALL THE APPOINTMENTS AND GETTING NO SUPPORT FROM SHAUN INSTEAD SHAUN TELLS LEA HE FEELS NO CONNECTION TO THEIR BABY, IMAGINE HOW MUCH THOSE WORDS MUST HAVE HURT LEA TO HEAR SHAUN SAY THOSE WORDS

LEA HAS THE PATIENCE OF A SAINT AS WALKED AWAY AND CALMED DOWN IN THEIR BEDROOM. WHEN LEA CALLED SHAUN INTO THE BEDROOM - WHAT WAS THE FIRST THING SHAUN STARTED TO DO? UNBUTTON HIS SHIRT FOR SEX AND LEA EVEN SAID SORRY TO SHAUN FOR NOT MAKING IT CLEAR THIS WAS NOT FOR SEX BUT TO FORM A BOND WITH THEIR BABY WHICH DIDN'T WORK ASKING SHAUN TO BE A DAD NOT A DR.

Lea gave up and told Shaun there was no point in him going to the ultrasound if that is how he felt Thank god for Glassie explaining to Shaun why he did double shifts when his wife was expecting Maddie as he was scared he would not be a good dad but he knew how to be an excellent surgeon and there were tears in Glassie's eyes as he reflected back into his past thinking if he had been there for Maddie she may not have become a drug addict and overdosed. Glassie lost everything his marriage and his daughter. Glassie said to Shaun not to miss a second in other words be there and share every moment he could with Lea who is carrying their baby and be supportive.

You could see Lea was delighted when Shaun turned up saying "You Came" and was genuinely surprised. Once more Lea took control and stopped Shaun from interrogating the poor gynecologist as Shaun started asking where she trained, there are no certificates on the wall before even speaking to Lea who calmly put her hand on Shaun's arm and said "Shaun be a dad, not a Dr" Shaun never flinches at Lea's touch and was silent as both watched in wonder as the ultrasound was being done

Thankfully, in the end, seeing and hearing their baby's heartbeat gave Shaun the connection, and when Shaun hugged Lea as it finally dawned on Shaun both said "we are having a baby" I had tears in my eyes when they hugged, all previous disagreements forgotten. I hope Shaun does not take Lea for granted again and will be much mre supportive

Lea was being so patient and tried so hard despite feeling like crap to give Shaun a connection with their baby which Shaun called a fetus despite Lea asking Shaun not to and Lea finally snapped, At that point, I threw my slipper at my TV hitting Shaun between the eyes as believe me I am a good shot

Daniela said...

I forgot to add that I agree with you, Kelli (and now with you as well, Syl), about Shaun choosing to 'hide' at the clinic from all places.
Some part of himself doubted that not going to Lea's appointment was the right thing to do. So, I think too that, unconsciously, Shaun went to the clinic to be found by Glassman and to be told what the right thing to do was.
A very clever move by the writers, because obviously, as Kelli said, Glassy's words based on his personal experience, carried more weight than any other thing.

Tony said...

Thanks, Mo, for reinforcing the question of "do the fans give Shaun too much slack?" that was highlighted on this blog not too long ago. I asked myself: if the exact dialogue of the two Shea conflict scenes in this episode were between Morgan and Park, or Claire and anyone, would people be calling out the woman? I think not!

And as it turned out, Shaun indeed learned to adapt - with a great assist from Dr. Glassman himself! Looking back, I can see that it really was Shaun's lesson to learn, and that he learned it! But at no point during the episode - even during those two conflict scenes - did I ever fear that this was something that would grow into something "Heartbreak" ugly. And as I mentioned in my first comment, the question was never "IF" they get through this, but "HOW".

Some "fans" are no better than hyenas who just cackle at anything that might get them attention, and I truly believe that they sometimes get more time and consideration than they deserve. But of course, it's important for avenues such as this great blog to remind readers that those howls are NOT representative of the entire fandom; and that there is a great appreciation for the nuance & complexity of the story being told.

Syl/Daniela/Melanie: I, too, am starting to hop on the "baby girl" train. Glassman bringing up Maddie by name could be a foreshadowing of an idea to come.

If it is a boy, I have a hard time seeing it being Steve Aaron. This is Lea's baby too, and I just can't see her own heritage being totally ignored. I would love another reference to Grandpa Rod, if they do go that route of naming after significant influences, so that we - and more importantly, fans who have gone a while without seeing that tidbit back in Season 1 - have reason to consider that as an option. Plus, Aaron is still among us, and can be honored in other ways - like being a totally awesome Grandpa!

And Allan, interesting questions you pose! Even if marriage doesn't happen immediately, it's something that could happen eventually. The key would be that they're doing it for themselves and not to honor tradition or conventions. And the issue of Shaun's mom continues to provoke debate. Some would like reconciliation and hope; others would like a more definitive closure. And some believe we've already gotten it, saying that she's caused enough damage already. I truly don't know where the show will proceed with either question.

Andreas said...

Chiming in late for once, in the matter of Shaun’s mom, I would like submit that the show out of nowhere introduced Claire’s father just in the moment she had finally gotten closure on her mother.

Since Claire and Shaun’s story arcs mirror each other I see the return of Shaun’s mother as a real possibility in the remaining episodes. Of course, we’ll have to wait and see how Claire and her father proceed and if the ill fate of biological parents in this Shore-verse continues… 😬

hippydippyscot said...

Thank's Tony for understanding where I am coming from. My posting was the 2nd draft as my first draft I really pulled Shaun apart giving every time Shaun has been very manipulative to get what he wants with others including Carly and his mentor Glassie but Lea does not allow Shaun to manipulate her and get away with this behavior

There are too many instances to mention where Shaun has been very manipulative and is not the innocent 14-year-old Glassie mentored. Shaun is now an adult a qualified surgeon who knows exactly what he is doing. Why so many viewers are still babying him is beyond me

Lea has the patience of a Saint. Dr.Andrews explained to Shaun love is not all about sex but supporting each other. Glassie and Asher did not give Shaun the answers he wanted to hear saying he did not want to change and left the room in a sulk leaving Glassie and Asher sitting there

Thankfully all turned out well in the end and Love shone through as Shaun and Lea watched and heard their baby Berry's heartbeat and finally Shaun got the connection he needed with their baby. You could see the love in both Shaun and Lea's eyes as they do make each other more as both have grown so much during season 4

I wish the writers would give them a break and allow Shaun and Lea the rest of the season to enjoy their happiness instead of throwing a bomb at them in every episode.

It is time Shaun stopped being so selfish and think what Lea is going through, Shaun did the easy part in getting Lea pregnant now Lea has to do the hardest part and carry their baby safely through pregnancy especially the first trimester which can be really horrible

I REPEAT WHAT ON EARTH WAS SHAUN THINKING WANTING LEA TO HAVE SEX ON WAKING UP WHERE LEA TOLD SHAUN THE SMELL OF HIS MINT TOOTHPASTE MADE HER SO SICK AND SHAUN STILL WENT TO KISS LEA AS WANTED TO HAVE SEX. HOW WOULD SHAUN LIKE IT IF HE WAS BEING SICK ALL DAY, BREASTS TO SORE TO TOUCH, WORKING FULL TIME, MAKING APPOINTMENTS WITH NO SUPPORT AND THEIR PARTNER WHO IS MEANT TO LOVE THEM MORE THAN ANYONE WANTS THEM TO HAVE SEX FIRST THING IN THE MORNING

LEA SHOWED GREAT PATIENCE AND LAY ON HER SIDE TO STOP HERSELF BEING SICK AND SHAUN LEFT IN A SULK I AM SURPRISED LEA DID NOT TELL SHAUN IF HE WANTED SEX SO MUCH TO TO GO TO THE BATHROOM AND MASTURBATE AS THAT IS WHAT OTHER HUSBANDS DO DURING THOSE 14 WEEKS WHEN THEY FEEL SEXY BUT THEIR WIFE/PARTNER IS BEING SICK MASTURBATION WAS MENTIONED DURING THE PANDEMIC WHEN SHAUN REFUSED TO SAY I MISS YOU TO LEA HE JUST MISSED SEX

Shaun is playing a very dangerous game as Lea may decide if Shaun is still not giving Lea the support she needs and Lea has finally had enough of doing everything alone Lea may go home to her parents

I am sure it would never come to that Glassie would once more be the voice of reason, but it is a scenario I have seen happen in real life

Andreas I could not disagree more what Shaun's *** I can't say her name as so angry did was unforgivable as did not protect Shaun and Steve allowing her husband to abuse them both she did not even stand between them Shaun's ******* was not scared of his dad and clearly told Shaun that she loved his father and he needed her more than they did when in the pancake shop and when the ******* asked for a hug Shaun said nothing but stood up while she hugged him Shaun stood very stiffly showing no emotion which to me showed Shaun getting closure

Shaun was 14 and Steve 12 both children and her husband an abusive father The ******* even stuck up for her husband's evil rants at Shaun saying he was to blame for his Steves death, while Shauns ******* said it was the morphine so defended her husband to the very end while Shaun had a meltdown. If she returned it would kill the show as the hatred towards her would be too much for the viewers. Claire's dad did not stand and watch Claire get hit and abused there is a huge difference