Wednesday, March 4, 2020

State of the #SHEA part 11: It Was Called "Fixation" For a Reason



This was a tough episode of TGD to get through. Whether you were reacting to Shaun alone, to Shaun & Lea together, or would rather just focus now on #Melendaire (since they won my Twitter poll over the weekend, I might as well give those supporters an early shout-out), I think we all knew it wasn’t going to be about an easy resolution to Shaun and Lea’s next chapter of conflicts. And if you got a look at the CTV promo for the episode, you had a big hint about the bridge/walkway scene near the end.

On the other hand, that episode title really told us all we needed to know.

To be clear, Merriam-Webster’s definition of the word looks (in part) like this:

  • FIXATION: an obsessive or unhealthy preoccupation or attachment. Synonyms: obsession, preoccupation, prepossession
Sounds like our Dr. Murphy when he gets in a certain groove, yes? (It should; “fixation on particular subjects and ideas” are one of five symptoms of high-functioning autism, according to THIS). And while fixations obviously can bring benefits, as we arguably see with countless solved medical challenges on the show…they turn negative as they “take over the individual’s life or interfere in their relationships with others” (according to that above link).

And this is where we find Shaun’s headspace—clearly still reeling from last week’s conversation with Lea, obsessed with the notion that he can change her mind about a romantic relationship—when “Fixation” begins. It shows up further not only in both of Shaun’s direct interactions with Lea (more on those in a minute), but in his work. Talking through his love life with his colleagues (so he can clear his head and focus on solutions to medical puzzles) is one thing… asking Claire to cover for him during a standard procedure so he can maximize his lunch break for “a time-sensitive issue” (that isn’t) is a bigger problem. And returning from said lunch break still distracted (from said fixation) to the point where Claire has to yell instructions in order for him to save their crashing patient? Yikes.

Of course he eventually focused enough to invent a whole new procedure, drawing inspiration from pimple-popping videos and getting to execute the whole thing himself under Melendez’s encouraging eye. (Leave it to Dr. Murphy to ultimately have one of his best days yet as a surgeon while the rest of his world keeps crumbling out of his control.)

But along the way, of course he couldn’t help but collect opinions from his fellow Bonaventurites (I may have to shorten that to BV-ites if I stay with that description of the docs en masse) that likely carried little weight, considering the way he challenged most of them…
"Sometimes people have to accept things
are as good as they're gonna get"

"What good does it do to give up if you're already heartbroken?"












"But shouldn't we find someone who makes us
a better version of ourselves?"



"...Find someone who loves you
the way you are."

… when the only opinion he should have listened to in the first place was the first one
he got: Glassman’s. 















But now let’s get back to Shaun and Lea’s first scene from “Fixation”. I think some of us picked up what was going to happen here just from looking at the promotional stills: A) Shaun invites Lea over to the apartment to B) Prove that he’s more able to change the “certain way” that he lives than she thinks he can, but C) Lea’s got Damn, he’s just not getting it written all over her face. 
The big reveal
Oh, HELP








Indeed, it was very much all of that. But what Lea said in response to his efforts is key:

“Your way of proving that you’re flexible and attentive to my needs is to pull me away from work—with no notice—make me drive all the way across town just so you can show me you un-alphabetized your beans. Doesn’t that seem a little inconsistent?”

It speaks directly to some key characteristics of autism, and even Shaun admits she makes a good point with this. Had he gone ahead and picked up the conversation with Lea later in the day (as alluded to in the script), maybe things would have been able to be discussed in a way that helped both of them. Or at the very least, it might underscore the fact that his perception of “the autism issue” is, so far, radically different from hers.

We’ll never know, because the next time we see them together is the bridge scene. And this is the one that really hurt.
 

One thing that hasn’t been talked about—surely because everyone’s focused on Lea’s gut punch choice of words—is why would Shaun now jump to “a real date” being what was needed for him and Lea? Doesn’t he have the insight to know her response?

But he doesn’t. I’m assuming it’s the incredible success he had with his patient that emboldened him to make such a move—in fact, he reveals that line of thinking as the scene unfolds—but as Lea says, he’s only proving her point all the more by not giving her some space, not taking her observations into consideration, and not taking “no” (for now) for an answer.

Which is why she had to bring out the BIG GUNS, as I’m calling ‘em, and say—in much clearer terms this time—what so many TGD fans are now hammering her for:


“Shaun, you’re autistic! You can’t ‘fix’ that!”

Followed by (after she collected herself; you could see how much she hated hurting him in that moment):


“You are who you are… and I am who I am… and the two of us will never work.”

“I understand exactly why Lea said what she said,” reveals fellow viewer/#Shea shipper Sonya (@gl1tterycake), who happens to be autistic herself. “It was horrible. It was cold. And, ladies and gentlemen, it worked… He left her the f--- alone.

“What Lea said doesn't make me hate myself as an autistic person," Sonya continues. "Quite the opposite: it makes sense. Why? These hard lessons are ones I have already learned. Chasing someone, changing yourself for them, hoping that if you're persistent enough you will eventually wear them down is not okay. Chick-flick conventions and grand romantic gestures are more likely to earn you a restraining order than a loving girlfriend or boyfriend.

“Shaun went too far, and he pushed her too hard.”


(She says a lot more thoughtful stuff, but I’m saving it for the next post)

One of the reasons I think it’s important to hear voices like Sonya’s is how seemingly unpopular an opinion she represents. For there’s a sea of viewer feedback right now that cries “Oh, poor Shaun! Why does your so-called ‘best friend’ who supposedly loves you have to be such a hurtful, evil bitch?”

So doesn’t that mean there might be a sea of viewers who aren’t appreciating both sides either? As I’ve said before—with TGD being a show told almost exclusively from Shaun’s perspective, it can be difficult to see anything else at times. 

"We really need Lea's point-of-view," urges fellow #Shea shipper Amy Danko. "At this point, she doesn't have anybody on her side... She needs somebody to understand."

Maybe Glassy’s it's-not-you-it's-Lea assertion early in the episode stuck with Shaun after all; by those final moments on the bridge he was no longer discussing his personal ability to change (fix himself), but his ability to “fix THIS”… which led to Lea’s stop-him-cold line.

By then, the “fix” itself had become Shaun’s fixation… the thing taking over his life; the thing interfering in his relationships with others. Though from the look of things by the episode's end, neither Lea nor Shaun will likely cross paths willingly in the near future. As Sonya said earlier about Lea's harsh-sounding words, "it worked"... Shaun's headed to (let's hope) the final stop on the Heartbreak Express, and he's traveling solo. 

But as she watched him go, Lea's eyes held enough heartbreak for a ticket of her own. 

28 comments:

Andreas said...

On the point! This episode was about the dark side of autism. How difficult it can be to accept that there are some harsh realties to be called out and be heard.

Lea pleaded in this closing scene: “You need to listen to me.” Because in relationships it’s all about communication. Besides fixation, reciprocity in relationships is a core deficit of autism.

Lea does know what she needs from him for being his girlfriend - and she knows what Shaun is not able to do in being her boyfriend.

Amy D said...

I stand by what I said. Lea needs to have more of a voice in this than shutting Shaun down all the time because if she didn't, she'd be kissing him and holding him because that's what she really wants.

She succeeded in driving Shaun away for now, but that's not what she ultimately wants. I believe that Lea is still running on a healthy dose of fear. Yes, Shaun was fixated on making things better with Lea, but she misunderstood him when he said "I want to fix this. I can fix it."

She immediately became angry and defensive and said, "I don't need fixing!"

No, Lea, you don't. And that's not what Shaun meant, or what he wants. Shaun loves Lea as she is. He doesn't want to fix HER or change HER. He wants to fix what's gone wrong between them.

Communication is an important issue in every relationship, no matter what kind of relationship it is, and especially in a romantic relationship.

Shaun DOES need to listen to Lea, but she needs to get everything out, and she also needs to listen and really hear Shaun. He doesn't want to fix Lea. He just wants to be with her as she is.

This is heading somewhere. I don't believe they've brought us this far only to deny us.

Andreas said...

Kelli, I’d like to complement your dissection of the final shots of 3.17 “Fixation” with the musical score. As a fellow user has taught me, the lyrics always matter in TGD and carry their own message on what the characters might have in their minds. Here it’s a version of “To Love Somebody”, originally by the Bee Gees.

When Shaun and Lea part ways and she looks sorrowful at his retreating figure, the lyrics read:

[long shot on both]You don’t know what it’s like/
You never know what it’s like/
[cut to Lea] You don’t know what it’s like/
[cut to her view of Shaun’s back] You never, you never/
[cut to the bathroom, Shaun hanging the toilet paper his way again] You don’t know what it’s like/
You don’t know what it’s like/
To love somebody […]
The way I love you. [transition to end titles]

My take on this is, that the score tells us Lea’s perspective of these events. In her mind, Shaun does not know how to love her in a proper, adult manner: attending to her emotional needs. Instead he was fixated on superficialities throughout the episode (toilet paper, canned goods).

Then the lyrics tell us, that Lea thinks he will never overcome this (“you never”), thus her outburst “Shaun, you're autistic. You can't fix that.”

Finally, the last lines tell us how sorrow Lea is for breaking Shaun’s heart, ruefully acknowledging that he might never fully comprehend her feelings and her cause of action.

So, I’m with you Kelli – Lea’s heart is broken as well. They love each other, but they can’t be together due to forces out of their control. A classic trope of drama.

Andreas said...

You are right Amy D. Lea needs to speak out more – if only for the sake of the audience.

Because every time she tried to speak to Shaun, he would not listen! He hasn’t really listened to her in all scenes they had together leading to 3.16 “Autopsy”:

3.14 “Influence” lunch scene – Lea talking about how unsatisfied and unsecure she is in her life. Shaun is preoccupied with a medical case and brain freeze. Lea stress-eats.

3.15 “Unsaid” lunch scene – Lea is venting about “Glassy”. Shaun is preoccupied with Carly and Morgan. Lea stress-eats.

3.15 “Unsaid” breakfast scene – Lea is venting about “Glassy” again. Shaun is preoccupied with a medical case. Lea stress-eats.

This is a pattern of dysfunctional communication due to lack of reciprocity in autism. Shaun isn’t responding to Lea because his mind easily becomes fixated on either other thought that crosses his mind.

Kelli Lawrence said...

Andreas, ah, yes, the music--! I'm something of a pop music trivia devotee, and as soon as I identified "To Love Somebody" the other night, I Tweeted "Classic Bee Gees cover in progress right now on #TheGoodDoctor"-- mostly because so many of TGD music choices are strikingly lovely and appropriate, but I've never heard them before. When I start recognizing lyrics, I get a little thrill :)

Anyway, Amy D. and I were talking about "To Love Somebody" earlier in the week... I had indicated the more obvious choice for a Bee Gees cover *might* have been "How Can You Mend a Broken Heart", considering Shaun has now verbally identified himself as heartbroken (via his conversation with Claire), one week ahead of the episode actually called "Heartbreak". But, for one thing, TGD doesn't do a lot of "obvious" anything. For another, I don't think the lyrics are nearly as representative of Shaun and Lea's unique situation. Amy went and fetched the lyrics (I wish I could say I knew them verbatim, but I didn't), and we agreed... this was a powerful and wise choice.

BTW, this cover was done by The Revivalists. Found out via this link; don't know if fans know widely about it or not... https://www.what-song.com/Tvshow/100278/The-Good-Doctor

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Andreas said...

You're right Kelli, the lyrics fit Shaun's perspective as well.

Yet, I felt the urge to stress Lea's side in this, because her's is so widely disregarded now in the wider audience.

And that might be by writer's design at this point of the story. You already mentioned it before: this story is told from Shaun's point of view mostly.

There is a lot in this picture we still miss. And I read this now as an allegory on autism itself. Individuals on the spectrum miss a lot of the subtle non-verbal cues of social life. Even if they try to pay attention.

And now look at us. Even as we pay such close attention, we're still puzzled. The Good Doctor gives its mostly neurotypical audience a very autistic experience!

Thanks for the link, this will make things easier for me. ;)

Amy D said...

Oh, I agree that Shaun is messing up, but it's nothing that can't be remedied.

As for the lyrics of "To Love Somebody," I did a little bit of analyzing, some that I already shared with Kelli, and some that I'll share here:

"There's a light
A certain kind of light
That never shone on me
I want my life to be lived with you
Lived with you"


Shaun has been honest and upfront: he wants to be with Lea.

Deep down, Lea wants to be with Shaun, but her own fears, her thinking her flaws will drive him away, and Shaun's inability to read more subtle and non-verbal cues from Lea are at the root of their problems right now.

"There's a way (there's a way) everybody say
To do each and every little thing
But what does it bring
If I ain't got you (if I ain't got you)
If I ain't got you (if I ain't got you)"


By now, I think the only Bonaventurites who haven't had something to say about Shaun and Lea's relationship are Lim and Andrews. And everybody is telling him something just a little bit different, and Claire and Morgan, especially in "Fixation," were basically telling Shaun to give up, to accept what he has with Lea will never be anything more than it is right now. But none of the advice is doing Shaun any good, partly because his heart won't let him give up on Lea completely, partly because everyone's saying something a little bit different, and partly because nothing truly matters to Shaun if he doesn't have Lea in his life.

"Baby, you don't know what it's like
Baby, you don't know what it's like
To love somebody
To love somebody
The way I love you"

Shaun and Lea love each other. We know that. They know that.

But neither one of them understands what it is like for the other one, loving them the way they do.

"In my brain
I see your face again
I know my frame of mind
You ain't got to be so blind
And I'm blind, yeah I'm blind"


This applies to both of them. Shaun knows his frame of mind. Lea knows her frame of mind. But neither one of them is doing a very good job of communicating their full frames of mind to one another.

"I'm a man
Can't you see what I am?
I live and breathe for you
But what good does it do
If I ain't got you (if I ain't got you)
If I ain't got you (if I ain't got you)"


Shaun is more than his autism.

"I'm a man/Can't you see what I am?" There's more to Shaun than his autism, and Lea knows that on some level, but she's not seeing it right now.

Of course, there are plenty of things Shaun isn't seeing right now either--why Lea keeps pushing him away, and that one thing he can change, which Lea doesn't believe but I do, and which I believe Shaun WOULD work on changing if he knew it was part of Lea's objections to them being a couple, is that he has been preoccupied with other things every time they've tried to talk in the last few episodes. Shaun WANTS to fix it, but he needs Lea to get specific and say this is something she NEEDS from him. Not hanging the toilet paper her way, not rearranging the canned goods, but honest focus on her and what she is saying, although again, I say she needs to have more of a voice here than she's gotten so far.

Then it's the chorus again until the song fades out to end.

Andreas said...

Well said Amy D! You’re way better with lyrics than I am, so I applaud you. ;) With this, you have probably blazed a trail out of this brushwood in terms of progressing the storyline. Because in the season finale some sort of resolution must come. Or with this heated mess, even the terms of catastrophe and catharsis might be appropriate…

Now, being more the prose and psych guy, let me side you with some real-world approaches.

While autism can’t be “fixed”, with high-functioning individuals there’s lots of potential for compensating the given deficits. Shaun is not held back by his autism forever (more by his arrogance given the lines with saving a patient in 3.17). In this sense, he is more than his autism and he could push his limits even further – but this would take years, conscious effort and more specific knowledge than the conflicting advices of his co-workers. Since Lea is no psychiatrist and her only experience with ASD is Shaun, we can conclude that the character is probably not aware of these possibilities. From her point of view, the autism is a legitimate irreversible reason. Shaun must prove his ability to change in a better way than in 3.17.

I further agree that Lea should try to clarify and lay out the specific reasons for her refusing a romantic relationship. Their communication styles must be improved. In a real-world scenario both approaches would be ideally be done with professional guidance.

But we all probably agree that this will not happen in drama. From personal experience a good dose of personal crisis opens the eyes for one’s own shortcomings and fuels the will to change. Judging by the promo photos for 3.18, Shaun’s crisis is right ahead. After that Shaun and Lea must rebuild their relationship from scratch, something they already did once (repetition as story device).

Tony said...

Great post, Kelli! Very well thought out, as always :-)

Amy, great analysis of the musical side of things. I'm not so much an expert in that area, but I'm not gonna lie - I'm listening to my own little custom-made "Shea" playlist as I'm typing this.

Andreas, I really appreciate your research and well-informed autism insights. As somewhat of an "outsider" to the ASD community (not too unlike Lea), I really appreciate this show and your explanations to help further my understanding. That doesn't mean I don't have an analytical side (I am an engineer after all....hey, another reason I like Lea :-) ).

In terms of character development, I would say we're at a crossroads. You all hit on a CRITICAL issue of Lea's voice being represented. The past couple of episodes have given us an opportunity to see Lea really be "humanized," allowing us to identify/sympathize with her sadness/self-depreciation in "Autopsy" and frustration in "Fixation". And although there are many howls at Lea for her cutting words, there are also a lot of questions about WHY Lea feels the way she does - indicating a greater interest in her character as a whole.

This could go in one of two ways: (1) further exploration into Lea's character, allowing her to become more well-rounded; or (2) a complete scrap, with an (unfortunate) message of "it doesn't matter WHY, it just IS". I'm obviously hoping for (1).

It should also be noted that Lea did NOT:
- Take back her "I love you too", or clarify to Shaun that it was a friendly/different kind of love; or
- Say that she didn't want to be with him BECAUSE of his autism. That line was in specific reference to Shaun's excessive need to "fix" and (IMO) served to remind Shaun that some things simply cannot be fixed.

Even before Lea gave her "I don't need fixing" line, you could see the anger building on her face as Shaun was talking about fixing. It's clear that even without a bunch of expository dialogue, this struck a chord with Lea. I wonder if throughout her life, she's never felt an all-encompassing, all-accepting love from ANYONE? To echo Amy, I think Shaun DOES have that kind of love for Lea. I just hope there's a way for her to be able to know it!

Andreas said...

Taking over the torch from you Tony, I would guess that Lea’s motivation most probably stems from her previous relationship experience and the recent behavior Shaun has displayed by not attending her emotional needs. The writers of TDG always liked to keep character motivation simple in the past: "When you hear hoofbeats, think of horses not zebras".

Now let us take this to the meta-level once more and perhaps gain some more insight where the writers are going with this story arc.

Obviously, it parallels season 2’s end, where Shaun was confronted with Han transferring him to pathology. Han did this because of Shaun’s autism. Han was ending Shaun’s dream of being a surgeon. Shaun had a breakdown, did something stupid and was rescued by the noble sacrifice of another character. This was his professional life.

Now, at seasons 3’s end Shaun is confronted with his biggest fear of being alone (stressed twice in the season) in his personal life. This time, his dream is being in a romantic relationship with Lea. This time, Lea has (puzzling enough given her earlier acceptance) a problem with his autism. Shaun will have a breakdown again. Where to go with the story from there?

If the writers do not wish to separate them, giving Shaun character development by walking through constant misery, they need an occasion in which Lea can spot a spark of hope that Shaun is able to provide what she needs out of an romantic relationship.

Thinking of parallelism in structure, the turning point of this story might be a repetition of 2x4 “’Tough Titmouse” with Shaun demonstrating he can care and Lea tilting her head in recognition and forgiveness. So, what could Shaun do this time? Or is Lea going to sacrifice her love parlleling Andrews to provide the momentum for further character growth in Shaun/in both in season 4?

Andreas said...

By the way Tony, great that you pointed out, what Lea did not say - ommissions are always of great relevance with this show! ;)

Andreas said...

Quick thought: Did anybody catch how bleakly and empty Shaun’s apartment looks since Lea has moved out? Powerful picture language again.

Kelli Lawrence said...

Andreas, re: the apartment lately: the baseball has not been seen since "Sex and Death", is that right? I was wondering if you spotted it in "Autopsy", but if Shaun has it in his bedroom now (and if he did while he was dating Carly, he most certainly does these days), I suppose we might not see it again for a while. Unless they decide to put it somewhere among the rubble of his living room in "Heartbreak"... I'll keep a lookout.

By the way, a natural disaster could be a great place to spark some hope in Lea ;)

Andreas said...
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Andreas said...

No, I haven’t spotted the baseball either so far. I'm with you in this. He kept the baseball in his bedroom and there were no scenes in this room since he had sex with Carly there that I can remember.

You’re right, a natural disaster would be a classic trope. Action movies do this all the time: they put the male and female lead through various dangers so that the struggling characters can bond (think of Indiana Jones, Quartermain, etc.). And you know what? From a psychologist’s perspective this is reasonable and easy to explain!

It is called “misattribution of arousal” and every student of psychology learns about this in the first semester: “An example of the possible effects of misattribution of arousal is perceiving a potential partner as more attractive because of a heightened state of physiological stress.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misattribution_of_arousal

Andreas said...

It seems there are now titles for the season finale:

Episode 3.19 - Hurt
Episode 3.20 - I Love You

https://www.spoilertv.com/2020/03/recently-added-episode-titles-various_6.html

Could not find a releas on a abc or Disney-site, though.

Amy D said...

Tony, I too have a Shea playlist!

Lea clearly has issues with romantic relationships. In 3 years, she hasn't had any serious boyfriend. And we know that she loves Shaun--and she loves Shaun as a woman loves a man, not as her best friend, not like a brother--and I keep coming back to two quotes from her, one from season 1, and one from this season, that she said directly to Shaun.

Season 1: "You're the most honest guy I know. Don't start lying to me to make me feel better."

Season 3: "You're a wonderful man, Shaun, maybe the most wonderful man I've ever known."

When listing off her worst flaws--selfish, needy, a total mess--all I could think was, what don't we know that has Lea so down on herself? And then Shaun told her, in response to that he believes he can handle her selfishness, neediness, and messiness. So to everyone out on the Interwebs saying they hate Lea and she's so mean, I totally disagree. She then pulled the autism card because it was the only way she could get Shaun to back off.

Also, Tony, I completely agree with you about Lea being angry and defensive about Shaun's "I can fix it" line. She angrily told him she doesn't need fixing.

But Shaun never said LEA needs fixing. He said, "I can fix IT" meaning the situation between him and Lea. He didn't say to Lea, "I can fix YOU." But she took it that way. Which leads me to believe that no, no one has ever accepted and loved her exactly as she is, flaws and all, until now.

Shaun doesn't want to fix Lea or change Lea. He loves her exactly as she is. She strikes me as really struggling with believing that she deserves that, believing that she deserves him. Of course Shaun's autism is going to be something they'll have to work through together in a romantic relationship, but she's always handled it pretty well before.

Amy D said...

Which brings me to an important point: "Friends and Family." The ending, the scene that sparked the hopes of every Shea shipper anew. At least, I know that's when my "Hey, maybe Lea's not out of the running yet after all" feelings started.

Shaun never wanted Carly to go to Wyoming. He wanted Lea all along. Why? Because Lea already knew about his past. He never did tell Carly, that we're aware of, about the abuse and abandonment he suffered at the hands of his parents. And although at the beginning of the episode, Lea told Glassman that she was swamped at work, in the next breath, she said, "But my best friend needs me, and I'm going to be there for him."

So, The Scene, when Lea walks in and Shaun is having a full-scale meltdown and hitting himself, Lea didn't run and get Glassman. She didn't leave Shaun to fend for himself. Without a second's hesitation, she saw him in distress, and she immediately went to him, and put her arms around him, and got hold of his arms so that he would stop hitting himself. She had one arm holding one of his arms against his torso and the other arm wrapped around his chest, her chin on his shoulder, her cheek touching his. From that position, Shaun lay down on his side, with Lea spooning him, and she shifted her arms so they were wrapped around him, and his hands found her arms and clung to her. They were holding onto each other as Shaun cried. One of Lea's hands was covering one of Shaun's hands, and his other hand, he used to hold onto her other arm. She was pressed against him, her chin still on his shoulder, her cheek still pressed to his, and we know they slept in each other's arms like that all night.


Glassman told Shaun in "Fixation" that it's about Lea, and I think he's right. Now we just need to know WHAT about Lea has her so afraid...and what happens and when to make her take the leap of faith and be with Shaun? I refuse to believe that they've brought us this far, and opened this door for Shaun and Lea, only to deny us.

Andreas said...

Part 1

I really love it how we’re trying to pick the brains of these fictional characters and the writers behind them! It’s emotionally compelling and intellectually refreshing. ;) Sorry for the long post, but there’s some stuff to say…

The Good Doctor was never a show with lengthy expository dialogue. It does not tell, it alludes to. As you already did in a wonderful manner Amy D, we must look at the deeper layers of Lea’s lines. Let me complement you again with some musings of my own

(By the way, in case somebody didn’t already know, all scripts are online: https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/episode_scripts.php?tv-show=the-good-doctor-2017 )

1.4 “Pipes”: “You always say exactly what's on your mind. It's the total opposite of most guys. It's nice.” --> honesty and distrust

1.8 “Apple”: “I may have overreacted this morning a little. And you were honest brutally honest but you shouldn't have to wear ear plugs in your own home. And don't start lying to me to make me feel good. You're the only honest guy I know.” --> inhibition/self-control; honesty and distrust; self-centered

>>Fun fact: while compiling this, we had a short power cut in my neighborhood<<

1.11: “Islands Part One”: Everyone's so competitive here. You know, if you didn't make a million by 30, you're a total loser. I don't need $1 million. I don't even think I need $90,000 […] It's been over a year, but every time I drive his car, I keep thinking, ‘You know, I don't need a more impressive title or $1 million’. He [Grandpa Rod] would take me fishing in Alaska every summer, skiing every winter break. I haven't taken more than one day off in four years because I always work. It never stops. And just taking this trip with you made me realize I, uh I want to enjoy my life, you know? --> work-life balance and life-fulfillment; commitment; not competitive; seeks appreciation not by money

2.3 “36 Hours”: --> “You are so worried about me hurting you? What about how you hurt me? What? You think you're the only one who has feelings? You think you're the only one who needs someone who doesn't judge them, doesn't make them feel totally alone, like there's not one person in the world who actually gives a damn about them? […] telling you that friendship is a two-way street, Shaun! A two-way street, you jackass! Guess I was wrong.” --> interpersonal appreciation, relationships in general

2.5 “Carrots”: “I like being your friend, and romantic relationships a-are unpredictable. So much can go wrong, especially when I am involved.”--> inhibition/self-control, self-doubt; relationships in general

2.6. “Two-Ply (or not Two-Ply): “I know I forget stuff a lot, and sometimes I snap and yell.“ --> inhibition/self-control, self-doubt

2.7 “Hubert”. “I went home to Hershey because I was unfulfilled with my life. I thought I could help my bullheaded brother save the shop, be a part of something I was really passionate about. Instead, we ended up tanking it together, along with our relationship. I came back here to get my life back on track. How am I supposed to do that if I can't even keep a damn fish alive?” --> life-fulfillment; commitment; self-efficacy; relationships in general

2.12 “Aftermath”: “Actually, I do understand. And I'm getting really tired of people treating me like I don't.” --> autonomy; interpersonal appreciation

3.14 “Influence”: “Do you think I should include my job in Hershey on my resume? It hurts so much! Or does it make me look like I'm unable to commit to anything?” --> self-doubt; commitment; lack of life-fulfillment

3.16 “Autopsy”: “I am selfish, and I am so, so needy. […] I am a I'm a total mess.” --> self-centered; self-doubt

3.17 “Fixation”: “I don't need saving, Shaun. […] And I am who I am. And the two of us will never work ” --> autonomy; self-doubt

Andreas said...

Part 2

Using simplified qualitative research method - counting the recurring themes in Lea’s lines - she is characterized as:

2 x seeking autonomy
2 x being self-centered (but becoming aware of)
2 x distrusting others
3 x lacking self-control (but becoming aware of)
3 x lacking life-fulfillment
3 x having commitment issues (but becoming aware of)
3 x seeking appreciation
4 x having bad experience in relationships of all sorts
5 x having self-doubt (painfully aware of)


Applying the Big Five of personality traits, Lea would probably score…

1) medium to high on openness to experience (inventive/curious vs. consistent/cautious) - individuals with high openness are said to pursue self-actualization specifically by seeking out intense, euphoric experiences;

2) low on conscientiousness (efficient/organized vs. easy-going/careless) - low conscientiousness is associated with flexibility and spontaneity but can also appear as sloppiness and lack of reliability;

3) medium to high on extraversion (outgoing/energetic vs. solitary/reserved) - extraverts enjoy interacting with people, they are often perceived as full of energy and action-oriented;

4) medium to low on agreeableness (friendly/compassionate vs. challenging/detached) - disagreeable individuals place self-interest above getting along with others; sometimes their skepticism about others' motives causes them to be suspicious;

5) high on neuroticism (sensitive/nervous vs. secure/confident) - those who score high in neuroticism are emotionally reactive and vulnerable to stress, also tending to be flippant in the way they express emotion, their negative emotional reactions tend to persist for unusually long periods of time; neuroticism is connected to a pessimistic approach toward work, confidence that work impedes personal relationships, and apparent anxiety linked with work.

Doesn’t that sound like the Lea we have come to know in the last three seasons? So, there’s enough in the open about the character’s motivation not to give into a romantic relationship. Center pieces are the episodes 1.11, 2.5 and 2.7. Only problem is, it isn’t obvious enough for casual viewers because it is so widely stretched over the seasons. What the show needs is less of a revelation than some explicit summary. They gave us a short summary in “Autopsy”, but it was not convincing enough for many.

And now the bonus material: guess how Shaun would score on the Big Five? There’s the answer why these two characters work so well on screen (beside the actors’ charm). On many dimensions they complement each other.

Where will the writers go with Lea and Shaun? After they have crafted the character so well to balance Shaun, I would think they keep Lea around for good (the only other character who works similar is Morgan). Think of David Shore’s House MD: he had Wilson and Cuddy. Murphy MD has Glassman and Lea. Killing off Lea seems unwisely (Wilson was terminal ill, but “died” after show’s end)

Will Shaun and Lea date anytime? Possible, if the writers give plausible cause to improve their communication. While House worked best as lone wolf, there’s lot of potential for conflict in neurotypical/autistic long-time relationships and the show explores the impact of autism.

Andreas said...

P.S.: The writers' course with Shaun's love life are less of a concern to me than the many negative reactions in social media to the overall story arc in season 3. I like the small progress with the many setbacks and struggles.

But a very vocal part of the audience seems less enthusiastic with witnessing the hardships of romance with ASD. Many want what they are used to see – cute Claire and manly Melendez.

The writers might feel the need to tune Shaun’s private life down in season 4. Some comments, denying Shaun the ability to be in a relationship at all, even reek of ableism. :(

Amy D said...

For the record, I'm not interested in Claire and Melendez as a couple. I like Lim and Melendez. I agree that Claire has had a crush on Melendez, but I'm not entirely certain of that being the case anymore, and Melendez was quick to point out to Lim, after Morgan's complaint, that there is nothing inappropriate going on between him and Claire. And then he told her that she lit up when she saw Dash, the widower of her college friend, and that she deserves to be happy. I'm holding out hope for Limlendez, too. I find Limlendez more interesting. They have chemistry, and baggage, though not as obvious as some other characters, and I feel like they're missing a golden opportunity to show Lim, the first female Chief of Surgery, learning to balance the personal and professional aspects of her life. But that's another subject.

Andreas, thank you so much for your brilliant analysis of Lea! I guess I seem protective of the character because I've liked her from the moment she knocked on Shaun's door asking to borrow batteries, and I saw chemistry between them right away.

But yes, taken all together, you're right, we do have a window into Lea's issues. This is a woman who clearly has had difficulties in relationships of all kinds, with the exception of her grandfather. Since his death, she hasn't had anyone in her life who takes her as she is and doesn't judge her for her flaws and failings. Shaun does that for her and generally always has; and when they've had fights in the past, like when she came back from Hershey, they resolved those fights.

I don't need The Good Doctor to turn into The Shaun and Lea Show, but with Lea working at the hospital now, she's now in a position to interact with everyone else, and not be isolated with only Shaun and Glassman. I too like the small progress with the many setbacks and struggles. That's what life is for everyone. And I agree that Shaun and Lea complement each other very well. I hope they get to take the leap of faith together in season 4.

Andreas said...

Amy D, you are very welcome with your protectiveness on Shaun and Lea!

I could feel it in each single word of your beautiful recitation of this great moment of 3.10. I feel the same. More so, since Lea in many aspects of her personality is like my best female friend when she was at Lea’s age. So, fiction and reality blur in me dangerously sometimes… ;) Some basic psychology was handy to distance myself.

By the way, I don’t think the writers pursue Claire and Melendez for long. Being him her superior, this would be to unrealistic. The writers are teasing the audience with that. It’s a bait for those, who aren’t in Shaun’s love life. Adds some more drama.

Barbara said...

As I was reading everyone's detailed and fascinating insights, two things popped into my mind.

I remember reading once that studio heads sometimes have requested/required that a particular movie or television show be altered for American audiences because
a "happy ending" is preferred on this side of the Atlantic. We are impatient and want the hero/heroine to kiss and live happily ever after, wrapping things up in a neat package. While I am not on social media of any kind, I have picked up from reading this blog and other articles that many members of the audience for The Good Doctor seem to want just
that -- Carly's over, Shaun loves Lea, we want them together now, so let's have them fall into each other's arms and get on with it.

Having been an ardent "House" fan, I was intrigued by the journey David Shore took us on with that series, and how he finessed the ending. He promised that the Dr. Shaun Murphy story would be a slow one of change, growth, setbacks, and small victories -- this approach made even more necessary by the nature of his lead character.

This thought caused me to consider another situation that makes his job even more difficult. Can you imagine being the master storyteller that David Shore is, and not knowing when/if your series will be ended by the studio/network? Imagine the difficulties of trying to craft a grand arc and mini-arcs along the way, never knowing which season will be your last? Plot elements you want to explore, but will you have time? Even though The Good Doctor was given an early renewal this year, the season, I assume, already would have been mapped out. Shoot your season wad too early, and you're left with filler -- be cancelled before you're ready, and you risk an awkward conclusion. I remember reading about the negotiations surrounding which season would be the last for "House," and how difficult that made it for the creators and writers. I would think that David Shore's stature and success would give him the benefit of respectful treatment by the powers that be, but the bottom line is the bottom line. It would be interesting to know how this dilemma is approached each season -- crafting 18-20 episodes, with the requisite cliffhanger, not being entirely sure if the cliffhanger will turn out to be something with a completely different meaning by default. You are a writer, Kelli...have you dealt with this issue?


Kelli Lawrence said...

Barbara, thank you for giving me a great segue! (Well, sort of)

Since I haven't been blessed with the opportunity to write for a TV series, I can't speak directly to the things you've brought up (though they've frequently been on my mind as well, with a variety of TV series). BUT...here's the segue part... I have been giving a lot of thought to TGD with my writer/producer hats on (OK, they're really just one hat) and my NEXT post... which I hope to get up for you to read sometime Sunday... is going to address a little of that with regards to this storyline. Stay tuned!

Oh, and I'm still curious at what point during this season did David Shore and his writing team decide they needed 20 episodes instead of 18 to tell the story they wanted to tell. I'm hoping there's some sort of post-season interview that answers that question.

Andreas said...

Barbara, this are interesting and very relevant questions about the production of a TV show! While I can’t contribute on them with knowledge, I might add some questions of my own.

Following up on our character analyses, there’s something bothering me about Claire. In the start of season 1 she was the all-caring and empathetic, over-achieving ethnic minority female lead character in a male-dominated workplace with some minor commitment issues towards men (poor Jared again) as the only obvious flaw. That turned her into Shaun’s interpreter with patients and co-workers, which was cute (but for me, without any tension).

Since mid-season 1 we saw Claire’s world come apart bit by bit. She lost Jared as a co-worker and boytoy. She clashed with her superiors Melendez, Lim and Andrews, she was sexually harassed at the workplace, her abusive mother died intoxicated with the daughter’s champagne, and she displayed self-destructive behavior. While Shaun grows, Claire is falling apart. Their character arcs are headed in opposite directions to some extent.

All of this is very interesting stuff for storylines, but what I can’t see are any dimensions in which Claire complements Shaun or vise-versa. Recovering from abusive, dead parents? Other than Claire, Shaun doesn’t think much about his now dead father. So, this conversation was done in one short exchange in 3.12 “Mutations”. They complement each other on cognitive empathy, but here Shaun’s potential for growth is limited by his autism (perspective taking is a core deficit) and Claire having less would go nowhere…

In every other aspect I can think of they are still very similar. They are both minorities (ethnic/neurodivergent), both have risen from the poor, both are smart (not much choice here, they’re medical doctors…). Claire even channeled Shaun’s thinking in 2x18 “Trampoline”.

My textbook on social psychology says they would make a promising real-world couple (that’s why so many fans would like them together, I assume), but in a work of fiction they lack conflict. They look like cute siblings rather than lovers.

I haven’t seen the Korean show myself but from what I could gather online, the female lead (who ended up with the autistic doctor) was a different, more unbalanced, conflicting character. Could the American writers have made a mistake with the balanced Claire character prior to the pilot, a mistake they only noticed early in season 1? There is one interesting dialogue in 1.16 “Pain”:

SHAUN: Would you ever date someone with a disability?
CLAIRE: Yeah, sure.
SHAUN: [CHUCKLES.] You could choose the ideal mate, Claire. Why would you want the unnecessary burden?
CLAIRE: Everyone is dealing with something. We just have to love other people for who they are and hope they love us, too.

This is a very pc but bromide response by Claire, obviously. It would lead into a story like Carly’s with all good intentions to start with and a rude awakening in the end. Could this be the reason why we have seen Claire and Shaun scarcely interact in seasons 2 & 3? And why the writers did hold on Lea for so long instead? Had they to change course because characters didn’t work out as planned?

Amy D said...

It wasn't David Shore's decision to do 18 episodes in season 3 instead of 20. That was the network's decision, which here in America is the ABC network. In seasons 1 and 2, they gave full-season, 18-episode orders to The Good Doctor. When the show was renewed for season 3, it got another 18 episode order. But then the network went to David Shore and Daniel Dae Kim and the other show executives in January and asked them to make 2 more episodes for season 3, bringing the total to 20. I've always been interested in ratings and behind-the-scenes sort of stuff like this, ever since I was a kid. I even did a presentation in my high school speech class about the Nielsen Ratings system.

So I'm pretty sure that it was ABC that asked for 2 more episodes this season, and David Shore and company are delivering, which I find interesting because "Heartbreak" was originally supposed to be the season finale, but I'm guessing they had enough time to edit "Heartbreak" accordingly in order to accommodate the actual season finale, episode 3x20.

I've never thought that Claire had romantic chemistry with Shaun. I've always gotten very much a brother/sister relationship vibe from the two of them.