Saturday, September 19, 2020

About 11/2, IG posts, and That One Deleted Scene We Need to Talk About

 



It’s been a hell of a week, hasn’t it?  (Aren’t they all, lately??) But when it came to developments related to The Good Doctor, it was more of a hell-YEAH kind of week. Thank goodness.

 

The big official news: ABC announced that TGD’s season premiere will be Monday, November 2… just SIX WEEKS from this coming Monday! (A not-so-big, official "poster" containing that info can be seen above.)

 

The much smaller, less official news pt. 1: a little over a week ago, Paige Spara (Lea) posted on Instagram a photo from the set, tagged it “Hello Season 4 💌”…

Paige's IG pic on bottom half...

Speculation on what we see in top half

… and the speculation started flying. Wasn’t the picture from the set representing Shaun’s (formerly Shaun and Lea’s) apartment? Or, more specifically, Shaun’s bedroom? OR… was it Lea’s (previous) bedroom? The shea.endgameIG account that I mentioned a couple weeks ago is all over this particular clue.




 


And the much smaller, less official news pt. 2 came amongst a series of IG posts by Sheila Kelley (Debbie) as she documented behind-the-scenes activity…



(This is just a screen grab... try this for playing the video.)


Yep, it’s about 9 seconds worth of video with Shaun and Dr. Glassman (as seen through an on-set video monitor), with the latter at the front door of ChezGlassy, and the former a fair distance down the path. Since the volume on the clip is extremely low, and not much is said, I initially was more intrigued with the shot itself—was this an example of social distancing, TGD-style?—but I should have known #Shea shippers wouldn’t let a little volume issue keep them from making as much sense of the audio as humanly possible!


Especially when the word that comes through the clearest is LOVE!

 

Did you give it a listen? What do you think?

 

I should add, too, that my curiosity continues to be piqued with regards to how soon after the S3 finale that scenes like this are occurring… two days? Two weeks? Longer? A lot of that presumably depends on how fresh TGD writers wanted Melendez’s death to be in the minds of the BVites. On the other hand, we keep hearing that COVID-19 is going to be addressed on the show in some fashion, and that’s a wild card that’s pretty impossible to play.

 

On the other (third??) hand, who cares, we’ll know in about SEVEN WEEKS-!!


In the meantime… I’d like to jump approximately seven weeks backward, for that’s around the time that TGD Season 3 was released on DVD. I’m not sure how many of us splurge for that—me, I’m borrowing a copy from my local library—but one unique feature is the collection of S3 “deleted scenes.” There are 27 in all; a few are so brief (20 seconds or less) that I can’t even tell for which episode they were originally written. But for #Shea purposes, there are three of the 27 scenes worth discussing.

 

“Wake Up” (presumably deleted from First Case, Second Base)—where GhostSteve alerts Shaun to the text on his phone about his first lead surgery, and Shaun does his “I am going to rock it!” declaration from his bed… before
realizing that if GhostSteve is giving him this news, it can only be a dream he’s having… not the real deal.

 

Of course, what happened on the show instead was Lea being there for Shaun’s


great news (and a whole lot of bouncing for joy from the two of them). I’m certainly glad they went with the Lea option on this critical scene, but I’d be curious to know how they envisioned the whole thing if it had evolved from the GhostSteve dream. Seems unusually challenging, at least in theory. Having GhostSteve appear mid-show (also in a dream) was a great alternative.


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“I Have to Go” (from Friends and Family) —a scene which


answers once and for all the question Did Shaun let Carly know he was going to Wyoming before he actually LEFT for Wyoming? (Answer: yes, he did.)

 


Remember how both Lea and Glassy were telling Shaun he needed to communicate with Carly, and then we saw him reaching for his phone, and… nothing more was seen until the threesome was driving up to the Murphy


residence in Casper? What was deleted from the show itself was: a) Carly being very concerned for Shaun while Shaun maintained his “I won’t be sad if he dies” stance, b) Carly offering to come be with him in Casper the following day, only to be assured that wasn’t necessary because Dr. Glassman and Lea were with him, c) Carly looking rather shaken as she stammers “Lea is going with you?”, then looking enormously frustrated as Shaun hangs up shortly thereafter.

 

Followed by… nothing more until the Fractured episode. Which is understandable, given what was going on in Casper. But this scene certainly carries a certain gravitas that remained in Shaun and Carly’s next scene together, when Carly said (paraphrased) “I’m sorry about your father, but hey, why didn’t you answer a single one of my texts while you were gone?”

 

And again in their elevator scene, when she asked “Be honest—is there something going on with Lea that you’re not telling me?” (Before his cafeteria confession about spending the night in Lea’s arms, which came a little later in the episode)

 

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Which brings us to…

“Medical Records” (from Friends and Family)

 

Now HERE is a scene that should’ve stayed. (In my totally biased opinion, that is.)





 

You should be able to see the clip here, but I’ll summarize it anyway: just after Shaun’s initial meeting with his (dying) father—the one where Shaun says all the angry things bottled up inside before storming out of the house—we find Shaun sitting (and rocking)  on a rock near the street, while Glassman and Lea hang near the Murphy mailbox, waiting for Shaun to calm himself down. Lea suggests to Glassman that it might be a good time for Shaun to go have a drink, and take a break from the family drama. 


Glassman equates that way of thinking to “running away,” adding that of course Lea would suggest it—“isn’t that what you always do?” he snarks. “The hours are too long… you don’t like your boss… you run home to the family business…”

 

“I’ve never run away from—” Lea begins to defend.


“And don’t even get me started on…” Glassman begins to say, speaking over her, before Shaun walks over and cuts both of them off.


“I need his medical records,” he says in reference to the terminally ill Ethan Murphy.

 

Glassman tells him no; he has already studied them plenty. Shaun says he needs to look at them anyway, but Glassman still says no. His point: Ethan is definitely dying, no need to verify it, but what Shaun DOES need to do is decide if “that tirade” (Glassman’s words for Shaun’s earlier outburst) is going to be the way he ends things with Dad.





“What do you want him to say?” Lea counters when Shaun remains silent. “Just because his dad says 'sorry' doesn’t change the fact that he’s a violent, abusive jackass and his mom is totally complicit.”

 

“Yeah, his dad’s a jackass. Join the club,” Glassy responds, apparently in reference to his own behavior towards his now-deceased daughter… which, echoed throughout the episode, is why Glassy feels compelled to then ask, “Is there ever a chance for forgiveness? Ever?? Because now’s the time, Shaun!”

 

Shaun maintains his silence, while Lea remains unconvinced. “His dad ripped a rabbit out of his son’s arms and heaved it against the wall,” she all but growls at Glassy. “He deserves to die miserable and alone.”

 

And just when Glassy looks Lea’s way… almost as if to say Okay, point taken… Shaun pipes up one last time. “I need his medical records…”

 


“No!” Glassy and Lea say in unison.

And that’s where the scene ends.

 

Now as you might recall, the next time we saw these three was at the bar: Lea got a round of tequila shots (which both men declined), and Shaun was studying those medical records after all… eventually reaching the same conclusion as Glassy (“There’s no hope. He’s going to die”). And then came the brief what-to-do-next conversation that concluded with Shaun agreeing to go to the lake with Lea. So… no big deal cutting the “Medical Records” scene from the episode, right?

 

Except here’s the thing. Of the 27 deleted scenes on the S3 DVD, it didn’t seem that any one episode had more than three… except for this one (Friends and Family). Which had a total of FIVE deleted scenes: “Medical Records,” “I Have to Go” (the Shaun/Carly phone call mentioned earlier), and three others relating to the hospital action going on with the star football player while the Casper family reunion played out (one where the player was being admitted, surrounded by his entourage… one where the player’s surgery was nearing completion… and one where the player’s “people” told the BVites they’d done well.)

 

So… again, my totally biased opinion:

 

1)      The three scenes from the hospital were deleted with good reason… they were utterly expendable. (The most dramatic moment was when Melendez got to kick the player’s entire entourage out of the ER, including the team physician.)


2)      The two scenes related to Shaun’s story were deleted because there wasn’t enough time to include them. No, they didn’t create gaping holes in the narrative with their absence, but…


a.       It was unclear whether or not Shaun had taken Lea & Glassman’s advice to call Carly, and consequentially, it was unclear later on what Carly knew about Lea’s involvement in the Casper trip.


b.      While the “Medical Records” scene was arguably more about Glassman and/or Lea than it was about Shaun, all three characters have been intertwined since the “Islands” episode in S1. If Glassy is preaching forgiveness right out in front of Shaun’s family home, it’s important. If Lea is preaching compassion for Shaun’s situation when Shaun is too distraught to voice it himself, it’s also important. If those two “preaches” collide, and Glassy gets thisclose to playing the you’re-no-good-for-my-surrogate-son card (we all know where he was going when he said “And don’t even get me started on…” right?), then… yeah. Fairly important!

 

3)      And while the hospital action of “Friends and Family” did result in one significant development—that of Claire shaking off her risky-behavior phase, and getting herself into therapy— I can’t help but feel they could have gotten that accomplished without a full-steam-ahead case of the week…

 

4)      … Because, as reader Allan Verissimo pointed out when the S3 DVD was released, Shaun, Glassman, and Lea (and even Carly) should have been allowed to carry the episode. Or at least 75% of it, if the remainder was to go towards Claire’s issues. Imagine what we might have been treated to alongside those deleted scenes: more flashbacks… more Shaun and Lea bonding…more Lea and Glassy butting heads… maybe a scene of Shaun with one or both of them preparing for his “I forgive you” speech…? Or even an opportunity for Lea to share something personal without getting cut off by anyone? (I know, I know… pushing it too far, right?)

 

I guess it’s not right to think of it as an opportunity wasted; obviously what WAS included in that pivotal episode was enough to get everyone where they were headed.

 

But I hope… especially for David Shore, and #Shea specialists like Thomas L. Moran, who wrote “Friends and Family”… that they came away from the experience with more conviction to take TGD even farther off the beaten path of St. Bonaventure’s corridors every once in a while. Four seasons into this series, I think everyone involved (including the viewers) can more than handle it. 



 




9 comments:

Vale said...

Hey Kelli!! Thanks for posting our humble analysis in our IG page, yes! We are thrilled and counting the days because we really look forward to see what they have in mind for our #Shea, hopefully even tho differences have to occur love will be the main part of their story. Regarding the deleting scenes, I agree that the two scenes from 3X10 were important, specially the one with Lea because seeing her defend Shaun so fiercely can be a glimpse for their future together for sure they will have to fight against odds (Glassy and the rest of skeptical). Also provides a very key piece of information, Shaun confided in her many things regarding his personal life, and marks a substantial difference with his at that time girlfriend.

Tony said...

Vale, you do such an awesome job with that IG page. It's one of the things that got me to actually open my own IG account and start posting! Your dedication, attention to detail, and excellent music choices have my full appreciation and respect. Keep up the GREAT work, and I'll try to keep providing my insights whenever I can!

Thanks, Kelli, for this trifecta of interesting material. It's nice to have an actual target date that exceeded even my optimistic expectations. I previously figured that the show would open with its COVID 2-parter in the late November-early December weeks. Firstly to get the virus-centric episodes out of the way in 2020 (recognizing that the impact will carry into 2021), and also to set the stage for the bulk of Season 4 to start in January. Even if we only get an episode or two beyond that initial 2-parter, having that sence of certainty with the premiere date is a BIG help!

I was one of those "splurgers" on the DVD. I'm just a geek for deleted scenes and gag reels. My biggest takeaway from the 27 deleted scenes for the season, as well as the gag reel: a reminder of just how much Lea was shoved into the corner for the first two-thirds of the season. Just the ONE deleted scene with Lea in it (plus the one scene that Kelli pointed out where Lea was mentioned). The way some people get up-in-arms over her character, you'd think Lea was a bastion of wasted screen time!

I agree that it made more sense, narratively speaking, for them to go in a different direction from Dream-Steve. Not only did it allow Lea to make her grand one-scene appearance in this episode; it also allowed for some narrative Shaun-Carly conflict because of Lea's advice. Besides, the scenes they kept with Steve proved to be valuable and memorable (especially the scene near the end, which is by far the #1 Season 3 clip on ABC's YouTube channel).

The first deleted scene in 3.10 was intriguing, and for a reason in addition to what Kelli pointed out. By deleting this scene, Carly did not appear in the episode. And as such, we got a "tie" of Lea and Carly each missing 6 of the 20 episodes from Season 3. Knowing that Carly had at least one more episode in which she was filmed further reinforces my "Lea shoved in a corner" point from above, which I hope is rectified in a serious way in Season 4! C'mon, David Shore and Company. I believe in you!

I've watched that Lea/Glassman deleted scene more times than I can count. It really packed a punch, and was - in my opinion - the most emotionally-charged of all of the Season 3 deleted scenes. I really hope they're able to re-purpose some of that dialogue into some Season 4 Lea/Glassman development.

I think Glassman was off-base with why Lea returned to Hershey. Worse yet, he seems so caught up in pin-pointing Lea's shortcomings, that he seems to be blinded of just how valuable Lea has been. Not only in Shaun's life...but also Glassman's (even if he writes off that he could have taken an Uber to the imaging appointment a year prior, it's harder to write off the events that led him to re-committing to living happier days).

But on the bright side, my admiration of Lea's dedication to Shaun only continues to rise. She said early on in the episode that Shaun "is my best friend", and the events that DID make into the episode proved it - and then some! But seeing her champion Shaun's cause so passionately here was another feather in what's already a very impressive cap!

I don't think it was intentional, but I appreciate the timing of Shaun's interruption. Glassman was about to dig deeper into a (perhaps incorrect) Lea shortcoming, when Shaun changed the topic back to the medical records. Just as we huff and puff about Glassman being overly-critical about Lea, it's like Shaun has his own limit before he steps into action.

Amy D said...

I bought the DVD too. And YES, the deleted Shaun/Lea/Glassy scene from "Medical Records" SHOULD have made it to air.

My takeaways from that scene were:

--Lea will fight for Shaun, especially when he's too overwhelmed to do it himself. She knows he can stand up for himself, but she has no problem having his back, which goes all the way back to "Islands Pt. 1" when Glassman stormed into her apartment to search for Shaun while Lea was hiding him in her apartment, and then she took him on the road trip because even at that point, she recognized that he needed some time away from Glassman and everyone else and the hospital.

--Glassman still carries major guilt about how his own relationship with his daughter ended with her death, and that is the main reason he was pushing so hard for Shaun to forgive his father. Glassman never got the forgiveness he so desperately wanted and needed from Maddie while she was still alive. Shaun honestly didn't care about forgiving his father or "making things right" with Ethan before he died. That was all Glassman. So Glassman was totally unable to be objective here, because he'd been through the same situation but in reverse. And it blew up in his face when Shaun DID forgive his father, only for Ethan's last words to him to be more cruel abuse.

--I agree with Tony that Glassman still refuses to acknowledge/recognize how valuable Lea truly is. Lea doesn't have that problem with, that prejudice against, Glassman. Yes, her first impression of him, in "Islands Pt. 1," was that he's a pushy jerk, but she knows now how important he is to Shaun, and so she puts up with Glassy and takes whatever he dishes out for Shaun's sake, because Shaun is so important to her. They're actually on the same side: they both love Shaun. But obviously, they love him in very different ways, and Glassman still takes issue with Lea, while Shaun loves Lea for exactly who she is. As I said back when it aired, Shaun NEVER said he wanted to fix Lea; he said, "I can fix this," meaning the problems in their relationship at that time. Lea misinterpreted it and used it as an excuse to bring up his autism to push him away, but we know, and Lea knows too now, from his eloquent mini-soliloquy in "Hurt," that Shaun truly doesn't want to change Lea. He loves her for who she is, and he likes the person he is when he's with her. She makes him more. And if we go back to season 2, when they first moved in together, and Lea showed up at Glassman's house saying, "I think I broke Shaun," wanting help and advice on how to deal with his idiosyncrasies now that they were living together, and Glassman asked Lea if she liked Shaun.

Lea: "Of course."
Glassy:"Why?"
Lea:"He's sweet, kind, honest, sometimes brutally honest. There's never an agenda with him. He's just Shaun."

But then she said she wanted him to change "a little." Glassman pointed out that Shaun doesn't want Lea to change, and told her that if she felt she made a mistake moving in with Shaun, she needed to move out ASAP before she made it worse for him.

Well, we know what happened: Lea didn't move out then. She was annoyed by the texts and the phone calls and the notes about things like how to hang the toilet paper, but deep down, she didn't want Shaun to change his core characteristics. She never has.

Amy D said...

Lea acknowledged at the end of "I Love You" her own mistakes regarding their relationship. "I'm such a stupid idiot for not seeing it, but I love you with all my heart."

We already knew Lea loves Shaun, and Shaun loves Lea. But faced with the possibility of her world without Shaun in it at all, hearing him on the radio all night long, both with him refusing to leave his patient, treating Vera while tasking Lea with counting to 180, and of course hearing his "Lea makes me more" speech to Vera, she re-evaluated everything she'd been afraid of. Shaun had already made it clear that he is willing to take the leap with her, that he wants the chance to handle Lea's selfishness, neediness, and messiness. "Why do you think I can't handle [all that]? I think I can," Shaun told her at the time. And we all know, after three years, how determined Shaun is when he thinks, when he believes, that he can handle something.

So Lea and Shaun are both all in on this relationship now. And Lea is working at St. Bonaventure now too. So there is the potential for a lot of intersections of their lives, and of Lea to interact on a regular basis, hopefully, with more characters than just Shaun and Glassy. (I myself would like to see Lea and Debbie strike up a friendship, and I REALLY want a frenemies relationship between Lea and Morgan. I want Lea to address the eating off of Shaun's plate equates to peeing on his leg comment Shaun passed along from Morgan last season directly with Morgan this coming season!)

I've always believed that Shaun and Lea have limitless possibilities for the future as a couple. I'm hoping The Good Doctor writers and producers don't let us down, because Shaun and Lea have what it takes to go the distance. I've always believed that too.

Tony said...

Amy, Amy, Amy. You are SO right, at least as far as I'm concerned (and I'm sure plenty of others with good critical-thinking skills).

Like you say, the potential is sky-high. And from a narrative standpoint, I think any other result would either be a letdown or just plain redundant. I've said it before: I just don't see this being a "Grey's Anatomy" or an "ER" that lasts nearly a generation. With 3 seasons already behind us, if we're going to see Shaun take any next steps such as the idea of considering marriage or fatherhood, it's probably Lea or bust. Anyone else would just take too much time to set up and pay off.

I also think the potential is there for Glassman to become a real champion of Shaun and Lea's relationship. And I wouldn't be surprised if there's already a side of Glassman that wants to see this succeed. But I really do hope that Lea can clear the "Glassy Hurdle" over the course of Season 4, to give us a better opportunity of character development on HIS part!

Or, to put another way: to serve as the reverse of the first season, where Glassman is seeking to convince hospital skeptics of Shaun as an asset. Just as everyone cheered when Andrews and others came around, I think that if done right, there would be some great cheers to see Glassman come around toward Lea.

Aside from the Shaun/Lea relationship, my single-biggest anticipation for Season 4 is the Lea/Glassman development.

Here's to hoping!

Amy D said...

Awww, thank you, Tony!

I would be THRILLED to see Glassman, over the course of the first half of season 4, or even over the course of the whole season (I still don't know how many episodes there will be in season 4; does anyone yet?), realize that Lea isn't the flake he thinks she is and that she is truly committed to Shaun and truly loves Shaun, and that Shaun truly loves Lea and is truly committed to her. Because Shaun is basically Glassman's son, and all he wants deep down is for his son to be happy, and Lea makes Shaun happy.

I'm hoping for more, and positive, development in the Lea/Glassman relationship for season 4 too. And of course, my ultimate wish is that Shaun and Lea are endgame.

Amy D said...

I posted this on Twitter because I needed to cheer myself up, so I don't know if anyone will see it here, but I'll post it here too.


Shaun's progression:

S1: "I don't want love."
S2: "I'm not okay that Lea is into Jake."
S3: "I love you, Lea....Lea makes me more."


Lea's progression:

S1: "When I think of you, I think that you're a good doctor."
S2: "Do you ever think about us being together as a couple? I don't want that."
S3: "I love you, too....I love you with all my heart....You make me more, Shaun."


#SheaAllTheWay

Tony said...

Thanks for sharing here, Amy. Twitter is the one platform I still have not joined, and so I really appreciate seeing your insights here on this page. You and I seem to be aligned on several key Shaun & Lea takes, including the idea of progression.

I still think back to their Season 1 road trip, and Shaun telling Lea "I like you." Lea deflects, telling Shaun that she's very likeable.

Fast forward to Season 3, and the "Autopsy" episode. Seeing Lea come over, identify the setting and surely Shaun's intentions, and yet still encouraging Shaun to say what was on his mind (and his heart). No deflection, no pre-emptive friend-zone speech. Better yet, seeing Lea actually share HER feelings and some raw vulnerability (which, in my mind, remains of Paige's finest acting moments to date)!

Even though things didn't take off quite at that point, there was still some encouragement that things could at some point.

And of course, by the time we get to the end of "I Love You", we get the ULTIMATE progression. Lea's fears no longer matter; Shaun's uncertainties no longer matter. They love each other; they put their own lives on the line for each other; and they're determined to give it a shot!

And I (along with many) hope this is THE shot that lasts for the remainder of the series!

Tony said...

And just to cap off Kelli's awesome trifecta of information, I thought I'd share a trifecta of tidbits as well! If you're on IG, these are nothing new. But for others who might not have heard from other channels, I offer these here.

1. The New York Comic-Con is hosting a virtual TGD Panel.
https://www.findthemetaverse.com/schedule

David Shore, Freddie, Paige, and the rest of the cast are expected to be there. It'll be on YouTube for anyone who wants to see! From the NYCC site:
Join the Cast and Executive Producers from the hit ABC & Sony Pictures Television series, The Good Doctor. David Shore, Freddie Highmore, and the cast will break down the season three finale and give fans an exclusive inside peek into what’s to come in the two-part season four premiere “Frontline,” about the Covid-19 pandemic.

2. Paige Spara is now in ANOTHER music video. And this time, she's the Director!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wc4qxZ7BcQ

The name of the video is "Just Friends", by the duo of Sidny X Chaix. Paige is the star of the video, which she also directed. I'm not so sure this will be a big commercial hit like "I Like Me Better" was, but it's great to see Paige's talents on a fuller display.

3. Speaking of Paige, she's featured in a new movie called "She's in Portland."
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7174660/

It's an independent movie, apparently about two guys who take a trip up the Pacific Coast to find "the one that got away." It's on the various streaming services to Rent, like Amazon Prime Video, Vudu, and others.

I don't think this is a particularly large role for Paige, but she did highlight one of her scenes on her IG Story that was quite funny...and including language you wouldn't hear her say on an ABC Primetime drama!