Thursday, June 3, 2021

State of the #SHEA Part 38: Journeys (The "Venga" Episode)




 

So, about that foreshadow of foreshadows that was in the “Venga” episode…

Yes. There was. Did you see it??

You didn’t see it???

MUST I DO ALL THE HEAVY LIFTING AROUND HERE??? 😂

I’m just messing with you. Kind of. Because there was a clear foreshadow in my judgment... and I can neither confirm nor deny any other hints floating around cyberspace in the coming week, but I will allude more directly to said foreshadow somewhere along the course of this post. Does that make it some sort of an “Easter Egg”? Yes. Let’s go with that.

(Because if I tell you now, you won’t read the rest of the post. And that will make me sad. Which will kind of make me like Lea. This isn’t the time for me to be like Lea, ok???)

Eh, you’ve probably retraced the show’s steps and figured it out anyway by now...

So let’s start talking about the rest of TGD SEASON 4 FINALE PART 1 and see where we end up…

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As I said when I wrote about last season’s penultimate episode, the scriptwriter of “part 1” takes on the challenge of not only setting up more complex (two-part) plotlines, but the challenge of creating enough conflict, engagement, and tension throughout the first part to hook us through to the second. 

Having said that… it’s a bad idea to compare last year’s two-part finale to this one. Natural disaster vs. mission trip? Activity of one night vs.10 days? Three main characters of the show in peril vs a wall of faces and files competing for life-changing operations? Yeah, it’s kind of like comparing apples to plantains… which is to say, even more different than apples and oranges.

Oh, and rather than #Shea officially beginning their path as a couple, we have #Shea at a fork in the road. Or so it seems. Of course we’ll get back to that.

But anyway, in Part 1 of this “Plantain” we also have…

  • A UNIQUE SETTING.

The mission trip is set in Guatemala, and that fact alone brought both excitement and concern to TGD’s many Latin America viewers. Excitement-- or maybe curiosity is the better word-- over how Guatemala would be represented… and concern because, historically speaking, even the best that TV and film has to offer still tend to lean on stereotypes too much when depicting another country or culture. In this instance, one only has to observe the yellowish/sepia filter used on the Guatemalan scenes (at least the outdoor ones) to know a certain “look” has been crafted here. I asked a couple of you for input…

From Vale, who lives in Chile: “There were too many cliches, stigmas, the yellowish filter… there is a pattern: many try to portray Latin America as if it was the WIld West. And in my opinion, that’s wrong.”

And from Naty, who runs the TGD Argentina account on Twitter: “The scarcity of green (in the exterior shots)... it looks as if it were the WIld West and it is not… they could have improved the scenery…” And while she applauds the show for using actors of Guatemalan descent (something she has confirmed herself), the authenticity of such things as the Guatemalan accent were mostly lost, she says, by the abundance of English used over Spanish. 

As for the medical issues raised in Guatemala, Naty points out there are definitely issues that apply to Latin America as a whole: “One of the things we have in common is the collapse of the healthcare system, especially in rural areas. The limitations are practically the same (from country to country)... the only differences are the geography and the weather.” She also commended TGD for bringing up a patient’s dental issues in one particular case; adding that dental health care simply doesn’t exist everywhere. “Endocarditis kills many, many people a year in rural areas of Central America,” she added.

(Feel free to bring up your own thoughts on the portrayal of Guatemala in the comments-- I know a lot more could be said about it here, but I’m gonna move on at this point…)

  • TENSION VIA “THE KIDNAPPING”:

    • Okay, maybe the term Mateo used should have been “emergency kid-delivering”?? For while I didn’t exactly relish the thought of Lim and Mateo being in danger, “kidnapping” seemed pretty extreme once we were all up to speed. Certainly was a great way to bring those two closer together… (as if they needed help? I’m not sure they did.)


  • CONFLICT WITH PARK and MORGAN

    • As uncertain as I am of where these two will actually stand with each other by the end of next Monday night, part 1 set them up for something rather effectively: Morgan looking pretty miserable in Park’s presence from the airport onward, Park witnessing the “thank-you-for-trying” scene with Morgan and the dad in the corridor, Park looking like the wind had been knocked out of him by a linebacker with Morgan’s verbal take-down in the bar parking lot… amidst all the other activity in the episode, #Parnick could’ve easily gotten lost in the shuffle. But the time they got was pretty powerful.

  • ENGAGEMENT (of sorts) wth the decisions being made about the dozen cases

  • The premise of the mission, as laid out by Dr. Mateo when the St. B’vites first arrive, is mighty compelling: decide on 12 patients/operations that can be done there in a way that attracts more potential patients and, hopefully, more volunteer doctors. But the simple fact that the cases have to go into one of just three piles on that table-- and then have to be subject to a ton of scrutiny by the entire medical team-- ramps up the human interest factor. Speaking of human interest… we had Claire challenging the integrity of separating the patients’ personal stories from their assorted ailments. We had Mateo-- the very one advising “It can’t be a competition of who has the saddest story; there’d be too many winners.”-- turning around and using a patient’s elite-athlete status (a futbol star in “excellent cardio health”) to defend his own choice. 

     




    And then we have Morgan present her case: “She just got married last week…” she adds after discussing the patient’s tumor. “Dr. Reznick…” Mateo begins to say, warily. But Morgan presses on:  “... which is medically relevant because studies have shown that optimistic people have better long-term prognosis… and
    she is full of hope.” 

     



    Cue to a shot of Shaun taking notice of this, in his unique way…  

     

    Just after Morgan’s patient gets pinned to the board, we cut to that shot of Lea, looking for blankets, about to get gutted by the sight of the happy family in the nursery.

     



    Do you see it yet? Yes? Maybe? If not, ask yourself why would they have those lines in there otherwise… why would Morgan, of all people, be pushing optimism and hope… and why would they show Shaun reacting oh-so-slightly?  

     

    OK, I’m moving on for now...


  • ROMANTIC INTRIGUE VIA LIM AND MATEO

  • For what it’s worth, I was cheering for Lim big-time on this. Not sure what will become of these two long-term, if anything, but it was delightful to see her get some of her mojo back after her exceedingly rough year.

    INTRIGUE WITH ANDREWS AND NURSE ANA

  • Also for what it’s worth…When Andrews became all dimples-and-darts during that one scene with short-haired beauty Nurse Ana, I know speculation ran high that Andrews joined the trip last-minute to escape some troubles he may have been having with his wife (echoing, maybe, Glassman’s apparent separation from Debbie). But when he assured Lim there was nothing to worry about, I believed him… my totally speculative guess is that Andrews and his wife-- who just came up in conversation for the first time in ages during the “Dr. Ted” episode-- are considering a Guatemalan adoption, and that Andrews is quietly working with Nurse Ana to facilitate that possibility. 

  • I know some of you want it to be Shaun and Lea who come away with an adoption-- we’ll circle back to that later too. Speaking of which...

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    And now, back to #Shea

    • Shaun is, as we thought, doing this mission trip without “the boot” from last week’s camping trip (from “Forgive or Forget”)... so this trip is an indicator that more time has passed… anyone know how long it takes an injury like that to heal? Three weeks? A month? 6 weeks? Anyway, if you factor in the three weeks between “Letting Go” and “Forgive or Forget,” they’re likely two or three months or so down the road now from the miscarriage of their baby girl.


    • Glassman finally gets an exchange with Lea—
      their first time sharing a scene since we saw her playing poker at his house at the end of “Decrypt” a million years ago—and while it couldn’t possibly make up for all the missed opportunities in between, it DID manage to capture the upgraded-but-still-edgy relationship they share in a very brief period of time with Glassman’s offer “to talk” if she needed someone (“I’m not going to do that.” “I know.”) If nothing else, it served as a sweet snapshot to hold up against to last season at this time—when his disdain for The Way She Hurt Shaun was felt all the way across the brewpub. (Pre-earthquake, of course.)

     

    • As for Shaun and Lea, it’s hard to say how they’d progressed in grieving immediately prior to Guatemala, but I inferred that Lea had slowly been getting to a place where #SheaBaby’s memory didn’t stop her in her tracks every other minute… and Shaun's most emotional moments are still to come. Once they are doing mission work in Guatemala, though, it’s like someone has thrown a giant magnifying glass on both #Shea and the things that make them stronger and more vulnerable, respectively.



    • Shaun is fluent in Spanish, giving him a rare communication advantage over his fellow doctors (though he was still hard on himself for neglecting to tell his patient that his ailments were treatable)

    • Lea, with presumably much less to do in these
      “evaluation” days of the mission than when the operations take place next week (her official role on the mission is Tech Support), has idle time serving as an enemy here, leading her to dwell in her sorrow… especially after becoming aware of Sofia, Oscar, and baby Isabella.

    • Shaun brings rash cream to rural shepherds, finds exciting challenges in the patients he sees, and even gets a spell of ***ShaunVision *** …quelling many(?) a viewer concern that Shaun’s gifts are no longer shining through as they once were. (I posted somewhat sarcastically about this during the show Monday night, and got a fair share of responses that, um, overlooked my snarky efforts completely. Heh.)

    • Lea… has apparently been getting barraged with phone calls from Mike and Pam Dilallo. Ugh. (I guess Shaun couldn’t intercept those forever.) More on this in a minute.

    • It bears repeating that Shaun can neither pick up cues nor sense emotions like neurotypical people do. Lea pretty much HAS to tell him she’s sad; otherwise if she’s trying to spare “the trouble,” she’ll succeed.



    • But only if Shaun were to watch Lea pack for this trip would he have known she’d brought along the tiny pair of pink socks that Mama D apparently gifted her with a while back. Maybe she hoped passing them on to Sofia’s Isabella would be a kind gesture that also alleviated her from seeing such a painful visual reminder (what if she’s been toting those little socks around since the miscarriage?). But Lea’s grief is currently a private affair, ready to tighten its grip on her at will. Giving away every gift she ever received on her baby’s behalf won’t change that.




    Claire is the one to notice it-- first at the bar, as she notes Lea looking adrift (it was just after Shaun offered Lea the drink he was bypassing because of the next morning’s surgery). That was followed by their little hospital corridor conversation the next day, where Lea's reasoning for keeping things to herself included the awareness that Shaun can't fix what's hurting her... and Claire says

    “It’s not about (Shaun) fixing it… it’s about the two of you just being in this together.”

    (Quick question here: is anyone else intrigued by the fact that a year ago, a certain infamous conversation focused on how Shaun’s ASD can’t be “fixed”.. And now we’re talking about how Lea’s grieving can’t be “fixed” either…? If someone else wants to flesh out this parallel, have at it!)

    By design, I suppose, Shaun and Lea’s time together in the “Venga” episode is limited almost exclusively to that scene in their hotel room near the very end. So let’s get to that…

    (A side note here: I’ve heard some take issue with the whole idea of Lea hiding her grief from Shaun in this episode, noting her tendency to try and match Shaun’s honesty with her own. Was the situation in “Venga” less than believable, structured simply to heighten the drama? I say no, giving TGD the benefit of the doubt because of the amount of time passed since the miscarriage creating lots of leeway for change in the grieving/sharing process. But YMMV (your mileage may vary), as they say. What do you think?)

    • I think it’s when Lea references the baby as “she,” and references Shaun’s blue eyes as a painful reminder of what they’ve lost, that Shaun really starts to feel the gravitas of their situation. Actually, scratch that-- it’s just before, when Lea says “nothing” can be done to make her feel better, that serves as gut punch #1. The “she”-- that’s gut punch #2. And to hear Lea say looking into his eyes hurts… oof. What a helpless feeling.

    • And if that weren’t bad enough, this is where Shaun (and we) learn that Lea’s parents want her to “come back to Hershey for a while.”


    • This felt like low-key trolling on Mike and Pam Dilallo’s part. The insinuation, to me, is a retread of their declaration earlier in the season that Lea isn’t up to the challenge brought on by a relationship with Shaun. Were they worried about Shaun? Did they suggest they BOTH come for a visit? Nope. Did they encourage Lea to be honest with Shaun about her pain? Also nope. Grrrrrr.


    • “Do you… want to?” Shaun says in response to all this. You can tell he is dreading her answer. If she says she wants to, he’s supposed to want that for her too, right? What about me? What about us? He must be thinking, deep inside...along with wondering where those questions are supposed to fit in amongst his everlasting desire for Lea to be happy.


    • Lea: “I think it would be good for me to get some time away… from everything…” Note that she didn’t say she wanted to, for whatever that’s worth. Again, I think this is a combination of her ever-judgmental parents getting in her head + her (completely understandable) state of mourning + her own nagging self-doubt; that voice now questioning if she can be what he needs her to be, which at the moment probably translates to be “not sad."



    • Shaun then reaches out and takes her hand; not one of us should be surprised because it has become their default connective move over the course of the year. But when they go back to the two-shot of them sitting on the bed, you can see how very rigid Shaun’s body has become. He’s clearly shaken by this, perhaps his greatest lingering fear about the two of them… that Lea would go away again (specifically, go back to Hershey, PA). Doesn’t matter how temporary it may be; to him, there’s every chance in the world that she wouldn’t return. 


    • “I’m sorry you’re sad” is all he says. Maybe because it’s all he can get out truthfully in that moment without making it about him. But I think he’s just too stunned to say anything else.


    Before I jump into the theories, some general thoughts that I think are worth sharing, and/or repeating if I’ve said them before:

    1. Shaun is the central character on TGD, which makes him and Lea the central couple on the show. #Shea is not everyone’s cup of tea-- God knows there are viewers who continue to make that painfully clear. But the show has very clearly invested in making them the heart and soul of TGD, and for those of us still supporting the show on a regular basis-- all the way into a season 5-- I don’t think it’s crazy to think we’ll continue to be rewarded for our efforts for the foreseeable future. In other words… to worry about #Shea splitting up is to borrow trouble. So why do it?

    2. For me personally, I don’t need to look any further back than one season ago to recall some seriously mixed emotions. The pattern of the show is clear-- Shaun’s biggest crisis comes in the final arc (last several episodes of the season), with a more-than-satisfactory resolution by the end of the final episode. Nonetheless, I was anxious as hell watching the earthquake episodes: Why is Shaun getting told he should give up on Lea? When will Lea have this epiphany she needs to have already?! How will this work out??? And need I remind anyone that the finale itself was entitled “I Love You”--? The moment I’d heard that news, I felt relief that they were going to be OK… nonetheless, I remained anxious as the episode played out. (Yes, I know Lea wasn’t the only woman saying those words in the episode, but she was the only one saying them to the TITULAR CHARACTER on the show.) My point: if we made it through all that, we can get through this…

    3. And to me, "this" feels like nothing more than a red herring. (“Red herring”: something that misleads or distracts from a relevant or important question, by Wikipedia’s definition.) It’s a GOOD red herring, in that it’s believable that The Dilallos would try and prompt Lea to pull away from her life with Shaun. But NOTHING in the promotional material-- where they’d want to play that up big-time-- indicates #Shea is in danger. What do we see instead? 

      1. Shaun and Lea together in the hospital nursery, perhaps providing aid to baby Isabella based on how distraught Sofia looks in some of the pictures.

      2. Shaun and Lea sitting together in two different places with Lea’s head on Shaun’s shoulder, another familiar sign of affection and togetherness we’ve seen many times this year.

      3. Lea looking VERY happy in this one shot.

      4. Shaun turning to Glassman (via FaceTime or whatever) with his fears. Glassman telling him (in context? Out of context?) “You can do anything… you’re good at this.” Shaun saying the words “People need to move forward… I want to move forward.”

    4. All of which goes to me thinking They are drawing the dots VERY close together, guys. All we’ve got to do is wait until Monday and CONNECT THEM.

    Still don’t believe me? Still thinking of how they pulled the rug out from under Melendez fans a year ago? All I can offer is that you put your critical thinking caps on extra tight, and re-read numbers 1-4. If I’m totally wrong about this, and all the fear-mongers on Reddit and Facebook and Twitter prove to be right, don’t worry-- I’ll come back and eat my words (along with a healthy amount of ice cream and a big ol’ spoon). 

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THEORIES… oh, Lord, do we have THEORIES… here are some of more realistic ones by my judgment (I'm not even going to bother with anything suggesting they're going to split up; you can find those elsewhere if you're truly interested):


  1. Shaun will insist on following Lea to Hershey—for real, this time. Except… again… if she’s saying she wants to “get away from everything” he may presume she doesn’t want him there.

 

  1. Something will happen to baby Isabella or her family that prompts Lea/Shaun towards adoption. Except… first and foremost... they’re not ready. Maybe they should go home and adopt a rescue dog… if Shaun could handle it, that is… I’m semi-serious about that. But for a variety of reasons,  I just don’t think this is the way for #Shea to go at the present time.


  1. Something will happen during their time saving baby Isabella (whatever is prompting them there in the nursery) that will prove cathartic for them as nothing else has to this point… something clearly uniting and reminding them that this loss of theirs is precious and unique and they need EACH OTHER to keep healing and moving forward.


  1. At some point, once these two have worked through all they need to work through in the first several acts of “Vamos”... he will propose. It may be in some low-key fashion completely unique to Dr. Shaun Murphy, but I’ve never been more convinced that by the end of “Vamos,” Shaun will ask Lea to marry him and she’ll say yes.

Here’s why:

I think it was Andreas who said earlier in the season—during one of numerous discussions about marriage in the comments—that Shaun would need to feel a specific motivation at this point in order to decide it was time to propose marriage. In other words, he already has the love of his life sharing a home with him, and as far as we know, to this point she hasn’t pressured him towards a bigger commitment. (In fact, given that he knows Lea was married once before, he may have presumed she would not be interested in another go-around unless she said so directly.) 

So, we’ve wondered, how could that motivation manifest itself? For the tax and/or legal benefits of being married? Maybe, but for obvious reasons (I hope) I didn’t want him reaching that conclusion… at least, not out loud. Because of their unexpected baby? I definitely thought about it, but sadly, that motivation no longer exists. Because it remains a wildly popular convention of social (and/or religious) culture? That’s a reason I could see Shaun supporting… but it still leaves me a little cold.

Back to that foreshadowing we go...

“She just got married last week…” she adds after discussing the patient’s tumor.

“Dr. Reznick…” Mateo begins to say, warily. But Morgan presses on: 

 “... which is medically relevant because studies have shown that optimistic people have better long-term prognosis… and she is full of hope.” 

(For sake of argument, I’m going to presume that the idea of making Lea his wife someday is not a particularly foreign one to Shaun.)

On the surface, it might feel to us a little TOO simple of an equation: If a newlywed is “full of hope”… then Shaun might rationalize (over-simplified or not) that he and Lea stood a better chance of a hopeful future if they got married—preferably ASAP. But that’s just one part of the trigger here. The bigger picture is that he doesn’t want to lose Lea, he doesn’t want to lose a chance at future children with Lea, and (again, most importantly) if she relocates to Hershey for ANY period of time, he fears she may never come back. Whether or not that is a reasonable fear is beside the point—the Hershey card is out on the table, for the second time in their time of knowing each other… and he can’t unsee it.

The motivation is there… the foreshadowing seed has been planted… everything’s teed up.

Are you as excited for Monday yet as I am???




26 comments:

Andreas said...

Well put, Kelli.

To support your conclusions, let me add some intel and educated guesses based on that.

I compared the ABC promo photos with the trailer for 4.20 as well as the behind-the-scenes photos provided by the driver’s blog.

The scene at Shaun and Leas’s hotel room probably has Lea packing to leave the country early, but either Shaun’s arguments or some external factor prevents her from doing so at the beginning of 4.20.

The first shot of the trailer depicts Shaun and Lea standing at baby Isabela’s hospital bay with Shaun ventilating the baby. The mother is sleeping in the chair nearby. It’s dark outside. Promo pictures depict the mother and Lea ventilating Isabela as well in bright daylight.

Either in conjunction with the power cut or because the hospital hasn’t the resources in the first place, baby Isabela has to be ventilated manually for an extended period. The mother, Lea and Shaun take turns with that. Shaun is needed to perform surgeries at day, but at night he joins Lea. They are alone, and they can’t go anywhere else because if they do, the baby will suffocate.

This gives the couple the opportunity to have a real talk about their loss, something they struggled with since 4.17. Saving the baby not only gives them some consolation but also helps Lea to understand that her part in their relationship is not inferior to Shaun’s “important work”. She has saved Shaun’s foot, and albeit not her own, she kept a baby alive.

The scene with Shaun and Lea sitting on a bench takes place at the small airport depicted in the btc pics and is probably divided in two sequences because in one promo shot, Shaun’s backpack stands beside Lea, in another one it does not. The emotional hug between Shaun and Claire is part of that scene as well. When pausing the trailer, Lea can be seen sitting at the bench in the background with the airport building behind.

Shaun and Lea wear the same clothes at the bench and in the bus, therefore, the bus ride takes place before the scenes at the airport.

We can conclude that the team leaves in the bus to the airport after their mission is completed. Shaun and Lea are obviously on good terms, although -clue- Shaun seems to ponder something in the bus.

Now, everything seems to indicate that #Shea will be fine at the end of 4.20. Lea snuggles into Shaun in the bus as well as in the airport and they mirror each other’s posture. They are in sync again.

So, why is Claire crying and hugging Shaun as if was a farewell? The easiest explanation is that Claire decided to stay behind. Because Shaun isn’t the only one thriving in Guatemala. Claire was struggling with the idea that she could treat 12 patients only, but otherwise I had the impression she was quite happy with the experience, and she seems to be on the same wavelength with Dr. Saravia. Claire enjoys doing good deeds. With the deaths of her mother and Melendez overcome and on good terms with her father finally, the character’s central conflict, her troubled past, has been resolved.

Claire can move forward – in a totally different direction than Shaun and Lea, who most likely will hit the next milestone of their journey as depicted in the promo pictures. Together.

Steven Hamburg said...

Another wonderful blog Kelli! And well needed since as you point out they unloaded some bombs on us regarding Shea. I’ve written that it’s a binary choice as to where they go and I like that you agree with me that Lea going alone to Hershey would not be a good thing. You point out correctly she’ll be under the influence of her parents who aren’t exactly in Shaun’s corner and the connotations of leaving for Hershey will mean for Shaun. I got into some controversy for this but I said Lea going to Hershey will send the relationship into a death spiral. Shaun will see the trip as an abandonment of him and the relationship. When others said Lea would come back eventually, I said sure married to someone else and carrying his child. Way too dark a place so I’m with you she’s not going to Hershey.

So Lea threw some heavy blows at Shaun besides Hershey she told him just looking into his eyes made her sad. How does anyone respond to that? Well Shaun did as well as anyone could by taking her hand and showing support. I said that Shaun’s ASD hurt him on her he couldn’t pick up social cues and read Lea’s emotions forcing her to be blunt with him. This made the scene so difficult to take.

So I like your take on the finale that an engagement would be the moving forward that Shaun is saying. I like that idea as it fits the premise and is Shaun taking control. I was thinking a scenario where Lea was about to leave for Hershey but discovers she’s pregnant again and decides to stay with Shaun.

It looks like the adoption story didn’t take root although I’m not sure if they’re done with baby Isabella. I think though it’ll be Shaun with help from Lea saving the baby rather than a calamitous event freeing the baby for adoption. That would be too dark a place to go. So while I think the adoption angle would’ve been a good one it’s not happening.

So it’s either happy ending with proposal and Lea saying yes or Lea to Hershey with uncertainty at best but to me a fatal blow to the relationship.

I do take note that the previews show the first ever hug between Shaun and Claire. Their first physical interaction ever. Very interesting to see the context behind the hug.

So looking forward to Monday and hoping for a happy ending.

Steven Hamburg said...

Upon further reflection throwing Hershey at Shaun is a cruel act that I hoped the producers and writers had moved past. Getting away from everything means Shaun. Shaun has to know what Hershey represents: abandoning him. Lovely a guy who would jump through a wall of fire for her and that’s the line she gives him.

They should remember their roots with their original theme song, “Islands in the Stream”. Lea needs to remember this line, “I can’t live without you if the love was gone, everything is nothing if you got no one, and you just walk in the night slowly losing sight of the real thing.”

And repeat, “ Islands in the steam that is what we are, no one in between, how can we be wrong, sail away with me to another world and we rely on each other huh huh”

The thing that brought them together in the first place was they were all they had and they need to remember that.

Allan Verissimo said...

I like the idea of Shaun deciding to go along with Lea to Hershey. It would symbolize the two of them deciding to move forward together.

I would find it interesting if the first episode of Season 5 started with Shaun and Lea in Hershey and then returned to San Jose in the second episode. David Shore did this with House on two occasions: the first when House was admitted to a psychiatric hospital and the second when he was sent to prison.

Of course, the only problem with my theory is that I doubt that a resident is allowed not to go to work at the hospital for several months...

Allan Verissimo said...

On another subject, SpoilerTV is doing its monthly voting to nominate the best TV performances in May. I voted for Highmore for episode 4.17 and Spara for episode 4.16: https://www.spoilertv.com/2021/06/performer-of-month-nominations-for-may.html

SpoilerTV is also doing its annual TV Awards for the best TV series and performers of 2020-2021, and Highmore has been nominated as Favorite Drama Actor: https://www.spoilertv.com/2021/06/2021-spoilertv-awards-day-3-voting.html

Andreas said...

Well, Alan... Lim might have a little less of a problem with your theory if Shaun and Lea were to stay at the Guatemalan hospital - Shaun would still be working as doctor, Lea still would be away from San Jose and the farerwell scene still would make sense.

This variant also comes with the advantage that once they return to St. Bonaventure, the plot could pitch Shaun and Claire as professional rivals for a post-residency position, which would stirr things up nicely in season 5.

hippydippyscot said...

Great blog Kelli thanks for making it positive

Steven, I am so shocked by your further reflections about Lea, they are well below the belt ~ Lea kept her feelings hidden deeply so Shaun could concentrate on saving the lives of others once more putting Shaun's needs and the needs of others before her own mental health

Lea carried their baby for 22 weeks inside her womb, the baby became part of Lea so a far deeper attachment is formed as a third of babies now survive at 22 weeks old. You are now looking forward to the birth and excited You look round shops at baby clothes, think of names. I am sure Lea has a book of baby's names inside a drawer in her desk at work

Claire gave Lea excellent advice ~ be honest with Shaun about not coping with your sadness as Shaun is always on about wanting to be honest with Lea and I am so proud of Lea for putting her feelings into words which helped Shaun understand just part of what Lea is going through now

The shock of Lea's words may give Shaun the scare he needs to support Lea and not the other way around This is not up to them BOTH understanding This is up to Shaun NOT understanding how much Lea is suffering and Shaun needs to tell Lea NONE of this is Lea's fault ~ yet you blamed Lea for being honest with Shaun? Lea is overwhelmed with grief and needs to know Shaun would jump through a wall of fire for her


Shaun needs to give Lea hope that she is not a failure as believe me no matter what anyone says Lea will blame herself for losing their baby and needs to know that the one person who makes her 'more' Shaun continues to love her and also needs to know that Shaun wants Lea to be the mum of any babies they may have in the future together

It is Shaun who should remember after his evil dad died in Portland it was Lea who held Shaun on the bed tightly while Shaun put one arm across and grabbed Lea's arm terrified he would have to endure the pain he was feeling alone, finally Shaun let the floodgates of emotions go as he sobbed while Lea comforted him.

Now it is Shaun's turn to show Lea that he will hold onto her tightly and not let Lea go through this overwhelming pain alone

It is Shaun who needs to remember everything he told Vera about Lea making him 'more' all of which came from their road trip in Season 1 while Lea listened and realized they made each other more ending season 3 on a wave of love and hope

Shaun needs to remember the words he told Lea's parents in the hotel foyer facing challenges together are what makes him and Lea stronger.

Shaun needs to remember when he and Lea had their first hug it was Shaun who knocked on Lea's door saying "I made a mistake today and someone got hurt" Lea walked forward, no hesitation and hugged Shaun, no words needed as Shaun hugged Lea back

The lyrics played during that scene are perfect and are linked to what is happening now as Lea needs reminding by Shaun that she is worthy of being loved and is not the pathetic failure Lea feels she is Lea is consumed with grief There is no way Lea can even think of what you mentioned. Lea feels empty inside their unborn baby daughter was part of Lea and Shaun and has now gone, can never be replaced and no word has been invented for such pain Lea's acting captured the grief you feel when you lose a baby late on in pregnancy perfectly

I'll Be Your Mirror by Clem Snide

I'll be your mirror
Reflect what you are, in case you don't know
I'll be the wind, the rain and the sunset
The light on your door to show that you're home
When you think the night has seen your mind
That inside you're twisted and unkind
Let me stand to show that you are blind
Please put down your hands
'Cause I see you

That hug and the apartment building where they first met mentioned by Lea when on a recent camping trip and Lea saved Shaun's foot ~ Shaun has to save Lea from self-destruction. A way of moving forward would be for Shaun to ask Lea to marry him There is no more beautiful way for Shaun to show his love x

Daniela said...

Thank you for being so optimistic, Kelli.
People in social networks are really overreacting. I’ve been all over Facebook, Reddit and Twitter, this entire week, and all I’ve found is terrified Shea fans or trolling Lea haters. How depressing!

I have to say that I liked “Venga” very much. It wasn’t the typical TGD episode, so I had my doubts at the beginning. But I loved it. It was a feel-good episode for sure and the goal of making us reflect about what we have and often take for granted, was completely accomplished for me.
During the scene between Morgan and the boy’s dad, when he took her hands, saying “Thank you for trying, God bless you”, I found my eyes full of tears.
I also liked the particular focus each character has been given, no matter how brief a scene involving them was. Just as an example, it was very interesting the different means each of them used to get to the airport, and also the different attitude with which they started the mission.
I wasn’t completely okay with the Glassy-Lea exchange. It was too little, too late for my taste. And even if I like their frenemy attitude towards each other, I thought that they were well past that point. So, it saddened me to a certain extent.
But it’s out of my hands, so I need to let it be the way the writers want it to be.

And what about Shaun speaking Spanish like a mother tongue, with everyone looking at him from the bus, astonished? Just great!

Daniela said...

Lea absolutely needed to take Shaun onboard about the way she was feeling. It would have been unhealthy for her and for them as a couple if she wouldn’t. And he’s absolutely more than capable of supporting her, as he’s already shown so far.
Now, I understand that from Shaun’s point of view, Hershey being brought up probably equals to Lea abandoning him. But that’s absolutely not the way that possibility was presented. That’s why I was so confused about people keeping talking about an imminent breakup.
I’m sure that she won’t go in the end, or if she will, the two of them will go together. But I’d totally understand her need to distance herself for a little while, because seeing Shaun is a constant reminder of what they’ve lost. It wouldn’t mean that she’s leaving him, or that she doesn’t love him anymore, or that they’re no longer going through everything together.
Sometimes you just need a little bit of space for yourself. That’s not the end of the world.
And to tell the truth (you’re probably going to hate me), if I necessarily need to find a negative aspect about Shea this season, is exactly their isolation as a couple from everything else around them. They lived in a kind of bubble, just the two of them against the world. It’s all right at the beginning, but it doesn’t work in the long run.
Thinking about it, this is probably the reason why I loved “Dr. Ted” so much, even if it was a tragic episode. It was maybe the first attempt to break the bubble, bringing (almost) everyone together.

About Lea’s parents, I sincerely still don’t have a solid opinion about them. We have seen too little of them to judge.
Why thinking that they would necessarily try to separate her and Shaun? At the end of “Parenting” they genuinely seemed to accept him, even like him. So, maybe they’re just really worried for their daughter. I would be in their shoes.

Will Shaun propose? I have no idea. Of course, I like this theory, and I liked the way you built it, Kelli.
Getting married surely qualifies as moving forward. But it’s not the only way to accomplish that. So, even if I’m totally sure that whatever happens will be something positive, I don’t want to believe it too much just to be disappointed.
It’s already happened too often for my taste.

I sincerely thought that one of the possible ways out of depression for Lea (and Shaun) would have been a child. I meant it more like a child they would grow attached to, maybe to the point of wanting to take care of them, even fostering them.
I was wrong, but not completely, because I think that somehow Baby Isabella will actually play a significant part in the moving forward process.

I’m very intrigued by what is awaiting us next episode. I think that “Vamos” will provide each character with its own resolution, not just Shea. Will Lim try to keep this new love story going? Will Andrews’ marriage be in jeopardy, or will he simply try to adopt to fill the void in his and his wife’s lives? What about Alex and Morgan? And finally, Claire. That hug in the promo between her and Shaun certainly looked like a goodbye. Is she staying behind? Are Shaun and Lea staying behind (obviously just for a while)?
And I’m glad they found a way to incorporate Glassman in the finale, obviously in video chat and (surprise!) from within his office. I’m curious about his advice to Shaun, knowing the way he’s probably feeling right now, after Debbie left him.

Andreas said...

Speaking of Lea and depression - did anyone notice that Lea is sleeping in every single scene or promo pic showing her in the bus? Even in new footage included in this interview:

https://katu.com/amnw/am-northwest-special-guests/the-good-doctor-stars-freddie-highmore-and-christina-chang

Lea seems to suffer from sleep deprivation. Insomania occurs in depression. The attention to detail the show put into the arc is really great.

Steven Hamburg said...

My Lea comments weren’t below the belt at all. I fully understand how she’s feeling she’ll never get over the miscarriage. I won’t get over it either and it’s my reaction to a fictional character’s loss. And I’ve mentioned many times Lea had to clue Shaun in on how she was feeling because Shaun was unable to pick up any of her cues during the trip. My fear for them after the miscarriage was that Shaun would be unable to show emotions that he lost his daughter as well and it would be misinterpreted by Lea that he doesn’t share her pain or is in able of sharing the pain. That’s why I thought the scene in which he got angry with Lea’s mom was a good thing because it was indirectly Shaun showing Lea emotion that he’s aware of the loss.

What bothered me was the mention of Hershey at that juncture. It was thrown out there to signify I’m leaving you. I don’t care what anyone thinks Hershey has connotations of abandonment to Shaun. And if Lea wanted to go to Hershey the perfect opportunity was to skip the trip to Guatemala and go while Shaun is distracted by the Guatemala mission. But she was sent to Guatemala because the producers and writers wanted her there for a purpose. My concerns were I didn’t want the purpose to be to break up with Shaun.

So I like Kelli’s interpretation and predictions and hope for some good news on Monday. They threw the worst at us and we’re set up for a satisfying conclusion.

A few other points no adoptive parent is really ready. Sometimes circumstances serve as fate or your destiny. So I say the adoption angle wasn’t a bad idea just an idea they didn’t pursue.

Shaun’s father passed in Wyoming not Portland. Shaun’s emotions were from his father’s final debasement of him when he against all his instincts went back to make final peace with him and he slammed the door right in his face as a parting shot. I wish he had such a breakdown with Lea during this period to show the loss.

Let’s hope for a finale that will give a glow that will last like “you make me more” through the summer with another 1.8 million view final video.

Pamela said...

Thanks Kelli for picking up on the foreshadowing. Never would I have seen that. I just rewatched that scene with Morgan and the team again and can add that from seeing the CTV promo, Shaun is the surgeon to operate on Gaby the newlywed when the power goes out. So this is another huge clue of what saving this lady means to Shaun.

Regarding Shaun's injured left ankle, he was still wearing a brace over his sock. You can see it when he gets ready to get into bed during that conversation with Lea. 4-6 weeks is an accurate timeline for healing from such an injury.

To add to this "fixing" fixation the writers have used the past 2 seasons, I'm sure you've also noted how Shaun has twice this season already said out loud how Lea is good at fixing things. Coincidence or is there a deeper meaning to all this talk of "fixing"?

I am definitely optimistic for a hopeful ending after the depressing last 4 episodes. But I will have some ice cream at the ready and will join you in case the outcome is not to our liking...

Syl said...

Some great emotional scenes in this episode, with Lea, Claire, Morgan especially.
I love when we get to see Morgan's sensitive side, here it was touching to see her crumble after having to tell to the father that they wouldn't be able to save his son and learning that the father thanked her for trying.

Overall, I loved this episode because it brought all the characters together out of the hospital, even showing several or all of them in the same place like the bar thus making them finally connect more, which was truly lacking this season, especially for Shaun and Lea who were indeed in a kind of bubble.

About Lea-Glassman: nice scene, but too little too late. I'm not going to say more on this yet again, but just in case a TGD writer visits this blog: please, develop the relationship between them in season 5, they play off each other so well and their dynamic is so interesting! And of course, there should be scenes with Shaun too,  they are a fantastic trio.

About Lea hiding her grief from Shaun, I'm totally fine with it because as you said Kelli, several weeks had passed since the miscarriage and while Shaun was doing alright she was still going through the grieving process, and she wanted to spare him from her sadness, and also the hurt since a part of this sadness stems from the fact that she feels sad when she looks at Shaun because she dreamed that their baby would have his blue eyes (that part was really heartwrenching! Totally a gut punch indeed.). Moreover as she said in the episode, he was doing important work so she didn't want to distract him from it.
In fact, Lea considering going to Hershey without Shaun may not just be to "get away from everything for a while", to her it may also be a way to not burden him, as she may not feel good for him anymore, or also as you said Kelli she may feel that she can't be what he needs her to be.
As Mo very eloquently said also, she's in fact being selfless by putting Shaun's needs and others' needs before others, while she's still suffering terribly from the loss.
Lea carried this baby for months and dreamed of it, she desired it so much especially because she loves Shaun so much. She's not throwing the words about looking at him making her sad and possibly going to Hershey to hurt Shaun, she's completely in love with him, but she's suffering and she's lost as she feels like this sadness won't go away. And Lea's parents and notably her mother do get in her head, adding to the reasons why in her weakened mental state she would consider going to Hershey. And as I mentioned, she didn't tell Shaun and she may feel the need to get away for a time to spare him.

I find it odd and honestly annoying how many people are talking about them breaking up, as it would make everything we saw about them this season useless. I understand it even less from people who have seen the promo photos which show twice Lea and Shaun seated close together and with Lea's head on Shaun's shoulder. And of course there is the photo of Lea smiling brightly and Shaun looking at her contented. That totally screams separation...And I don't also understand how Shaun's words in the promo "People need to move forward. I want to move forward." equal to him wanting to break up with Lea...Anyway, time to move on from this topic. Sorry for ranting...

Syl said...

As I told you on Twitter Kelli, it's great that you noticed how the scene with Morgan presenting her patient's case was a foreshadow of Shaun possibly asking to Lea to marry him. I went to watch the scene again after reading your post, and it seems so obvious now that I'm angry at myself for not seeing it!! But that's why it's so nice to come here and learn about things we missed.
Anyway, I'm now full on board for thinking that there'll be a proposal in "Vamos"!

Your guesses about how the episode will unfold seem completely right Andreas.
Regarding Claire, I've been thinking too that she will be the one to stay in Guatemala, as she will find a purpose in helping people there. I hope the writers will find a good storyline for her in season 5, because I like her and I love her friendship with Shaun. It's nice to see a totally platonic close friendship between a man and a woman in a medical tv show. And I hope to see her friendship with Lea develop more too.

All in all, Vamos will likely end well for all the characters, each of them either finding peace, purpose, love, or resolving a conflict, thus moving on from the pain they've all been through so that they can move forward. Although of course for Lea, the process of grieving won't be completely over at the end of the episode...

hippydippyscot said...

Steven,

We will have to agree to disagree with the below-the-belt comments I felt you made about Lea as I took them very personally. Unless you are using a pseudonym and have carried and lost a baby at 22 weeks you have no idea how the grief is overwhelming Lea.

Thanks for pointing out my mistake when I said Portland instead of Wyoming, I am sure everyone knew where I meant. My memory is still under repair since my stroke and am I trying really hard to get the details correct and despite checking and rechecking I make mistakes.

My wish is for a positive ending full of love and hope as am so fed up with the soothsayers saying if Lea goes to her parents they will split up as Lea is abandoning Shaun, or even worse Lea will get back with her ex-husband so Shaun and Lea will split up, the negativity is never-ending. I have had to stop reading the fan page threads.

Sorry, Daniella The Dr Ted episode you loved so much is the worst episode I have seen due to the tragic ending which Andreas explained storytellers use to cause a nuclear effect. Did The Good Doctor not do any research into the trigger effect this episode may have on viewers who have lost babies at 22 weeks and are fully formed.

We are having a mental health pandemic on top of covid and been in quarantine for 75% of the year where I live and it is too much for anyone to bear. Yes, The Good Doctor is a TV drama but we are living in a bubble due to the Covid virus with many of us not being allowed to travel 5 miles outside our areas. During such unprecedented times, TV dramas can get entangled with reality and set off a sequence of events that lead to tragedy.

Thank You for your kind words Syl of Lea being selfless putting all others needs before her own which in turn has affected her own mental health.

Lots of Love
Mo xxx





































































Tony said...

Another great post - another great set of comments!

One thing I appreciated with Shaun's extensive use of Spanish was that it was a follow-up over something that was hinted way back in Season 1 (1.14 "She"). Shaun's old neighbor Kenny said a basic Spanish phrase (gracias, amigo) after Shaun agreed to let him run cable to his TV. At that point, Shaun gave a more elaborate response in Spanish (No hay na que agradecer - which means "there is nothing to be thankful for"). And while this isn't proof of fluency like this past episode gave us, it showed us all the way back then that Shaun knew more than just a few basic words.

Mo, I'm glad to see things continuing to improve. And you're right - Lea has stepped up time and again to encourage and empower Shaun, sometimes at her own sacrifice. As fans, we cannot get so lost on the show's emotional appeal that we lose sight of the big picture.

Shame on those people stirring up trouble and worrying even our strongest of Shea fans! They're vipers, preying on fans at their greatest point in tension, and take joy in stirring up trouble. These are the same people who CHEERED at the death of the baby in the first place, and my vitriol for those people is as strong now as it was when that episode aired.

Honestly, I'm not worried about Shaun not "showing enough emotion." Quite simply, he processes things differently. And as we saw with Claire last season after her mom's death, grief manifests itself in different ways for different people. Between Shaun's blow-up at Lea's mom on the phone, and the whole effort that went into the camping trip, I have no doubt that Lea knows that Shaun is hurting and is coping in his own way.

The bigger question, to me, goes back to the discussion they were having when Shaun asked Lea to move back in. Can they give each other what they NEED? I happen to believe so, as do my fellow commenters I suspect. And even Glassman does, based on the promo - which is HUGE! Because he's not just showing confidence in Shaun on a professional level, but on a highly personal level where MANY people fail. Himself included!

Speaking of Glassman, I can understand him taking SOME time before telling Shaun about his Debbie situation. But going back what Pamela said: if this episode is 4-6 weeks after the last episode, based on the condition of Shaun's foot, then we're getting into something deeper with Glassman's neglecting to update Shaun. I agree with everyone saying "too little, too late" on having a moment with Lea. Hopefully this is a setup for some more serious Lea/Glassman development during Season 5.

As for this upcoming finale, I still believe for the best. Not just because it's the pattern of past seasons. But because of WHY they've done it. Above all, this is a show of overcoming adversity. A show of hope. And so I truly believe that we will see the season end on a hopeful note that will leave us all cheering. And after seeing the ABC promo yet again, I think it'll be a much happier ending - and beginning - for EVERYONE this time around!

Andreas said...

I’m sorry for being the bearer of bad news, but the adoption theories flying around for #Shea (and Andrews to lesser extent) haven’t considered the current stance of the US Government on that. For some legal issues, intercountry adoptions from Guatemala are not processed:

https://www.uscis.gov/adoption/uscis-country-specific-processing/adoption-information-guatemala

So, any good news can only include the two of them - not three... ;)

Julianna said...

WARNING! The writer of this post is almost always wrong. Nevertheless…

I was fascinated by the FaceTime exchange with Shaun and Glassman. Shaun asks how he can make Lea not sad. Glassman’s reply: (paraphrasing) I’m glad when you ask for advice, but lately you’ve asked for it less and less. You’re good at this.

Glassman seems to be saying, I don’t know the answer, but you do.

Then there are 2 promo pictures I can’t get out of my mind: Shaun and Lea sitting on a bench, Lea’s he’d on his shoulder, eyes closed, looking weary. Shaun looks thoughtful. Then, same bench, Lea’s not only happy, but looks positively radiant. Shaun’s expressions can be hard to read if you don’t look at his eyes, but here he looks self-satisfied, almost smug. (I did it! ?)

There’s also the Freddie Highmore interview. Obviously he avoided giving away too much, but there’s this:

Freddie Highmore: It’s a huge end to the season for the two of them. I think it’s as big as you can get in terms of a relationship and the ending place for the two of them. It’s obviously been such a hugely dramatic, big, emotional latter half of the season for the two of them. Going through something that huge and that meaningful can either make or break a relationship and we’ll see what happens to the two of them in this last one.

“As big as you can get.” I had disagreed that there would be a proposal; even if there were one I thought Lea would say no, (She’s always lagged behind Shaun in going to the next steps in the relationship.) But together with that shot of a delighted Lea and Glassman basically telling Shaun that whatever he thought, to go for it (“You’re good at this), I’ve changed my mind.

However, remember the warning at the beginning of this post!

Julianna said...

I just feel that Glassman- Shaun conversation is extremely important, to the point that we may be talking about foreshadowing based on this in the future. I can’t get it out of my head. Glassman is finally acknowledging Shaun’s emotional maturity, something Shaun hotly argued for in season 1 (remember the slap? That’s what it was about). It’s a huge shift in the relationship and possibly in Glassman’s relationship with Lea also.

Andreas said...

I agree with you, Julianna, this conversation between Shaun and Glassman is a pivotal point in several ways.

The show follows very basic storytelling techniques here. To none’s surprise, Glassman is the mentor figure to the protagonist, Shaun. For the protagonist to earn their final victory, they must stand up for themselves, without the mentor’s help. It is a metaphor for the transition into adulthood: letting go of the care the parents provided. An experience all of us go through.

The timing of this milestone in Shaun’s transition is significant. In any good story, the protagonist must endure a failure and suffer through a crisis of faith in aftermath. The protagonist should be on the brink of giving up/losing it all, but finally muster all their strength and will to fight the final battle. By that, their final victory will feel earned and much more gratifying for the audience. More so, if they do it alone, without the mentor’s help.

The pregnancy plot has followed this pattern: with the miscarriage, Shaun fell into the crisis that threatening the loss Lea as well. Now the mentor retreats so that the protagonist is on its own.

As I wrote before, this turning point in the story can be seen as a metaphor for transition into adulthood and I suggest that on this occasion, the TGD writers mean it quite literally – it is another indicator that Shaun is about to propose to Lea. Shaun is taking the next step into full adulthood, and in order to earn it rightfully, he has to do it all on its own (with a little nugde by Morgan, but that is the characters primary role anyway).

Daniela said...

I agree with you both, Julianna and Andreas.
That Zoom conversation between Glassy and Shaun is indeed a pivotal moment.
I felt it so much that it made me cry.
I think I'd like to see some kind of reaction from Shaun, because I need to know if he actually understood what all of that was really about (I mean, in reguard to his relationship with Glassman).
But probably the scene will end there. Shaun's focus is entirely on Lea now, and this would likely be the wrong moment to explore anything else.
But I hope they will in season 5, because this is really huge!
And, at this point, I also agree abaout Shaun proposing. But, please, let's pretend that I haven't sayed it out loud...

Andreas said...

12 hours to go and we'll all be a little bit more wise, Daniela... 🙃

Daniela said...

Apparently, we were right about Claire, Andreas.
It's on Twitter right now! It seems that Antonia is leaving the show.

Andreas said...

Indeed, and it appears to have been an decision initiated by Antonia Thomas. That is bittersweet for sure and will shift the character dynamics in season 5 considerably. Now, let's see how the show handles the farewell of the character and the actress that was the first to be casted for the show.

My hope that the characters journey will end on a song with her beautiful voice!

Barbara said...

I can only imagine how full of thoughts and comments this blog will be in the next few days. Kelli's in-depth analysis, followed by everyone's take on the finale and the entire season. (In addition, a lively discussion on whether the overwhelming smell of Cinnabon is a good or ghastly thing...) I can hardly wait to read everything. But, I just had to drop in a small tidbit before all the fun starts...a moment that made me smile and keep smiling.

After Shaun told Claire what he was thinking as part of their goodbye scene, he paused a long while, then asked "What do we do now?" Words written by David Shore; voice and inflection by Freddie Highmore. It took me back immediately to the very first episode when a young Shaun asked Dr. Glassman the identical question in the clinic where he and Steve had taken the rabbit killed by his father. I have no idea if it was done consciously, or was just a coincidence, but the adult Freddie uttered that phrase in almost exactly the same way as he did years ago, but in a grown man's voice. Dr. Glassman gave him guidance then; adult Shaun now knew what to do, and the first-ever hug with Claire ensued. It went by in a blink, but for some reason, I found that tiny memory so very satisfying. Just one more reason to delight in this jewel of an episode.

As always, thank you, Kelli, for all the hours and effort you put into making this blog an enjoyable place to visit and share our thoughts.

Barbara

Daniela said...

What a wonderful tidbit you brought to us, Barbara.
I went to re-watch that scene very quickly, and you're exactly right.
This is real poetry, so difficult to find nowadays on TV shows.
Thank you so much!